I still don't undestand that they see Kale in the manga ...
Her only problem was that he didn't want Caulifla to know his true power ... this is really bad since her relationship with Caulifla does not exist in this version does not justify her fear, outside that .. she is just power and nothing more .. ... there is no development or motivation of any kind, its only characteristic is to be powerful.
also the fact that caulifla did not notice kale's power makes her look more silly because even cabba realized it.
In the anime she is shy but is shows the relationship she had with Caulifla, they had a mutual affection, Kale had her motivations and goals, she wanted to become strong and overcome her fears to support Caulifla and her team was thanks to the fight with goku that achieved his goal and at the end of the tournament he won quite with this experience. a development as a person and as a warrior.
seriously it is very strange for me that they to get carried away by something very superficial
Dragon Wukong wrote: ↑
Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:20 pm
Alruneia wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:24 am
Personally I'm undecided but leaning towards the manga. In general I prefer the manga ToP, since it doesn't drag on and on, it doesn't give everyone and their dog new transformations, and it treats Ultra Instinct better. However, it's also missing many of the great character interactions and moments that the anime provided. Katopesla, for example, was a treat in the anime and a waste in the manga.
I'll just go into a few topics:
- Kefla and the U6 saiyans. I vastly prefer the manga iterations of the U6 saiyans, and I wish I had the ability to say I prefer manga Kefla as well, but I just can't. Toyotaro had a great idea in giving us Gohan vs Kefla, but then he barely showed us any of it. It should have been expanded upon. I don't like anime Kefla too much, especially not how she was powered into the heavens but then just used to give Goku UI Sign again, but on its end, the manga just really doesn't show us enough, so I have to go with "undecided".
- Ultra Instinct. While the anime may have the "hype moments" and whatnot, Ultra Instinct is treated like some kind of powerup ("Goku Blanco") when it's really just supposed to be a martial arts technique. In the manga, Ultra Instinct is treated much more like the technique it's supposed to be. ("Attacks that exploit openings are not true strength!" - Jiren) The way UI is achieved in the manga is strange to some people, since it's inspired by Master Roshi, but personally I find it more acceptable than the whole Spirit Bomb scene. For me, the manga wins here.
- Minor characters. While the anime did set up a kind of "everyone waits their turn to fight Universe 7" formula, which is a really bad format when it's supposed to be a battle royale, it did manage to give almost every character their time in the spotlight. The manga didn't use that kind of format, and that's good, but by not doing so it instead threw a lot of characters out of the fight without giving them anything. The question is if the format is more important than the characters, and in this case, in my opinion, the characters win out. For me, the anime wins here.
Summed up most of my opinions, but to add one thing, Frost and Frieza's "team up" was an actual team up in the manga, and Frost felt more like a genuine threat that Frieza helped remove. I think the manga definitely won with that.
I don't see how ... frost did everything by eliminating an entire team, as such they never fought together
TobyS wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:08 am
New u6 saiyans aren't too over hyped and over powered. Freeza maintains he was sandbagging and could beat Kale and she tires and gets owned by fodder.
Keflas lower as she realistically should be and Gohans higher as he should be and they meet in the middle. Gohans contribution means Goku doesn't have to get tired fighting both of them...
caulifla in the manga manages to damage frieza final form and according to the movies, frieza final form has the power of SSJ God
frieza boasts as always ... he doesn't know how to feel the ki but goku thought he needed his help
comments of vados, champa and kahseral
and it is not realistic that gohan has that power .. vegeta or frieza maybe
TobyS wrote: ↑
Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:08 am
Goku doesn't have the immersion breaking magically restoring stamina and Jiren doesn't look like a complete dumbass letting Goku gradually grow strong enough to fight him.
that's not quite correc...
goku recovers energy thanks to frieza.
jiren wanted to prove his principles were the right ones
and anyway they both do the same do not eliminate goku even though they have the opportunity
would also say that Jiren was waiting for Kale to eliminate 4 universes even though he could kill someone ..