But in the movie, Goku being able to absorb the SSG's power to maintain the same strength of the transformation is an exception, Beerus himself classifies him as a genius because of this (this is not present in the anime / manga however). So the ritual being used was no guarantee that the transformation could be accessed againDragon Wukong wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:40 pmFor one, there's no reason to assume Videl wouldn't just do the ritual again. There's no reason to assume she wouldn't after everything he's done to defend the earth.Tai Lung wrote: ↑Fri Jul 03, 2020 11:43 amthat really doesn't prove anything .. since at that time it was the only way to achieve that transformation ..
I very much doubt that Videl (Pan) is willing to collaborate again at Vegeta's whim.
What are they supposed to achieve by training with whis? the ritual is temporary ... it doesn't make sense
Secondly, in Battle of Gods the SSG ritual provided a permanent power boost to a Saiyan's base form, which we see through Goku's base form being able to fight Final Form Frieza where Gohan failed as a Super Saiyan to fight Frieza's first form in Resurrection F. Even if Super Saiyan God itself was considered temporary in those films at that time, there's no reason to assume Vegeta wouldn't do the ritual between films to bring himself to Goku's level once more.
And I think the point is just that we're not sure that the ritual was used in the movie continuity. Vegeta clearly implies that he would use the ritual next time, but that was before he started training with Whis. That was before he knew that there could be other methods of achieving this transformation
What seems to be the case is that in the anime and manga continuities, Vegeta obtained the SSG through training