My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
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My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
It will probably happen by the next arc when Goku will have evolved his Ultra Instinct by 2 levels!
Level 1: Lighter silver hair + half purple eyes. (the current version’s hair is DARK silver!)
Level 2: (Fully completed!!!)
WHITE hair + Purple eyes!
Whis will reveal that Goku is now finally 100% equal to ANGEL Merus! And thus strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus for the first time ever! And so the fight starts...
That was my prediction xD
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Level 1: Lighter silver hair + half purple eyes. (the current version’s hair is DARK silver!)
Level 2: (Fully completed!!!)
WHITE hair + Purple eyes!
Whis will reveal that Goku is now finally 100% equal to ANGEL Merus! And thus strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus for the first time ever! And so the fight starts...
That was my prediction xD
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Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
Honestly as Goku and Vegeta are now they could probably put up a pretty good fight against Beerus. As to when they will actually fight, ehhhhh my best guess would be never tbh, if anything Goku and Vegeta will fight the person who beats beerus and that will serve as a comparison.
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Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
They will never do, and no one will reach Whis power this decade.
As for fighting Beerus, that depend. A sporty, just martial art fight will corner Beerus.
A death match will probably end one second just after, Goku + Vegeta nuclearized.
So, that's depend on the context.
As for fighting Beerus, that depend. A sporty, just martial art fight will corner Beerus.
A death match will probably end one second just after, Goku + Vegeta nuclearized.
So, that's depend on the context.
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Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
Toriyama already said in an interview he never intends for Goku to become as strong as Beerus and Whis.
But I could see it happening much later on in the series when they are ready for a new character like Uub to become the main character, then Goku could reach angel status and have the same rules apply to him of not being allowed to interfere in mortal affairs.
But I could see it happening much later on in the series when they are ready for a new character like Uub to become the main character, then Goku could reach angel status and have the same rules apply to him of not being allowed to interfere in mortal affairs.
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Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
He never said that!UpFromTheSkies wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:50 pm Toriyama already said in an interview he never intends for Goku to become as strong as Beerus and Whis.
But I could see it happening much later on in the series when they are ready for a new character like Uub to become the main character, then Goku could reach angel status and have the same rules apply to him of not being allowed to interfere in mortal affairs.
He said: “I don’t have plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis any time soon...”
Big difference.
You are spreading misinformation.
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Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
I don't know Japanese, but the translation I read said he has no intentions for them to surpass Beerus and Whis, not "any time soon" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯GodVegetto91 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:28 pmHe never said that!UpFromTheSkies wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:50 pm Toriyama already said in an interview he never intends for Goku to become as strong as Beerus and Whis.
But I could see it happening much later on in the series when they are ready for a new character like Uub to become the main character, then Goku could reach angel status and have the same rules apply to him of not being allowed to interfere in mortal affairs.
He said: “I don’t have plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis any time soon...”
Big difference.
You are spreading misinformation.
Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
Goku already should be strong enough to fight Beerus. But they just keep moving the goal posts for no reason.
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Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
Alright then, my bad. He didn’t exactly say “not any time soon” but he certainly implied it!UpFromTheSkies wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:45 pmI don't know Japanese, but the translation I read said he has no intentions for them to surpass Beerus and Whis, not "any time soon" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯GodVegetto91 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:28 pmHe never said that!UpFromTheSkies wrote: ↑Mon Feb 01, 2021 4:50 pm Toriyama already said in an interview he never intends for Goku to become as strong as Beerus and Whis.
But I could see it happening much later on in the series when they are ready for a new character like Uub to become the main character, then Goku could reach angel status and have the same rules apply to him of not being allowed to interfere in mortal affairs.
He said: “I don’t have plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis any time soon...”
Big difference.
You are spreading misinformation.
Toyotarō:
“… I get the feeling I’ve just heard something amazing (laughs). Lord Beerus and Whis turn up in Dragon Ball Super, and have become an unsurpassable wall for Goku and the gang. What do the two of them mean to you?”
Toriyama:
“Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis.”
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations ... b-version/
The “right now” part very strongly implies that Goku and Vegeta will surpass Beerus at some point in the future.
Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
It seems like a contradiction. Originally Goku's SSJG power comprised... what? 70% of Beerus' total strength? Going by the natural pattern of transformations multiplying a Saiyan's strength that should have signified SSJB allowing Goku to finally get over the speed bump and overcome the Hakaishin. Now look at where we are years down the road and with no final confirmation of Goku having surpassed Beerus. If anything the opposite may have been implied in the final fight with Moro since Beerus was resolved to help, believing that his aid would be invaluable and help shift the tide of things.
Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
To add to that, Beerus implies there is a way for Vegeta to surpass Goku with something the Gods of Destruction are specialists. So, this at least implies Beerus has a great command over this unknown technique, like Whis has over Ultra Instinct.Lionel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:59 am It seems like a contradiction. Originally Goku's SSJG power comprised... what? 70% of Beerus' total strength? Going by the natural pattern of transformations multiplying a Saiyan's strength that should have signified SSJB allowing Goku to finally get over the speed bump and overcome the Hakaishin. Now look at where we are years down the road and with no final confirmation of Goku having surpassed Beerus. If anything the opposite may have been implied in the final fight with Moro since Beerus was resolved to help, believing that his aid would be invaluable and help shift the tide of things.
Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
Many people think Goku already has. In fact I got in a debate with a couple people when I said the series is keeping it purposely vague and I was told you only think so because you are a Beerus fan lolLionel wrote: ↑Tue Feb 02, 2021 5:59 am It seems like a contradiction. Originally Goku's SSJG power comprised... what? 70% of Beerus' total strength? Going by the natural pattern of transformations multiplying a Saiyan's strength that should have signified SSJB allowing Goku to finally get over the speed bump and overcome the Hakaishin. Now look at where we are years down the road and with no final confirmation of Goku having surpassed Beerus. If anything the opposite may have been implied in the final fight with Moro since Beerus was resolved to help, believing that his aid would be invaluable and help shift the tide of things.
But personally I feel the series doesn’t want to commit one way or the other. There have definitely been some contradictory statements.
Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
Narratively speaking he already should, mastering Ultra Instinct which Beerus never did was it.
Of course most of Dragon Ball isn't planned ahead, so they keep on stretching. This whole parallel technique to Ultra Instinct is probably an excuse to elevate Beerus and bring Vegeta along.
That said, in the manga, until told otherwise I assume Goku can wipe the floor with Beerus. One possesses Ultra Instinct the other doesn't.
Of course most of Dragon Ball isn't planned ahead, so they keep on stretching. This whole parallel technique to Ultra Instinct is probably an excuse to elevate Beerus and bring Vegeta along.
That said, in the manga, until told otherwise I assume Goku can wipe the floor with Beerus. One possesses Ultra Instinct the other doesn't.
Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
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Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
Well this aged like milk, I guess vegetable boy is still too weak to fight the anorexic cat huh.OrangeBanana wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:52 am Honestly as Goku and Vegeta are now they could probably put up a pretty good fight against Beerus. As to when they will actually fight, ehhhhh my best guess would be never tbh, if anything Goku and Vegeta will fight the person who beats beerus and that will serve as a comparison.
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Re: My theory on when Goku will be strong enough to fight against Lord Beerus lol
It seems like the story is shifting away from that rivalry in favor of one with Vegeta instead, so I don't know how likely a rematch is between them. I think a more likely fight to look forward to is UI Goku vs Whis.