Do you think they should retcon Vermoud’s power to being greater than Jiren's?
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Do you think they should retcon Vermoud’s power to being greater than Jiren's?
Now with the manga’s seemingly new agenda of Hakai Power being >>>>> Non Hakai power.. And it being reintroduced as an opposite but EQUAL technique to UI. We know that Belmod has been a GoD for at least many thousands of years.. And so is obviously more experienced and skilled with it than Toppo is, (whom SSBE Vegeta already defeated..) There’s no reason (or room) for Belmod to fit in between GoD Toppo and Jiren’s power..
The problem is the GoD Battle Royale fight...
If Beerus is >>>>>>>>>>> current UI Goku still (which clearly is the case here) and current UI Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ToP Limits Surpassed Manga Jiren.... who is (as stated) >>> Belmod.
Then how the hell did Belmod manage to perform so well during the GoD Battle Royale against all the other Gods, including Beerus and Quitella???!
It doesn’t make ANY sense!
Unless they retcon his strength to being much stronger than Jiren again...
That would solve ALL of it!
Simply have the Gods of Destruction sitting on top of the power hierarchy and pyramid once more..
It makes so much more sense afterall. Having a random space alien, gray, and mortal without any God Ki or UI at all surpass a freaking GOD OF DESTRUCTION never sat well with me, and makes zero sense. It’s downright ridiculous, disrespectful and blasphemous.
What do you think???
The problem is the GoD Battle Royale fight...
If Beerus is >>>>>>>>>>> current UI Goku still (which clearly is the case here) and current UI Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ToP Limits Surpassed Manga Jiren.... who is (as stated) >>> Belmod.
Then how the hell did Belmod manage to perform so well during the GoD Battle Royale against all the other Gods, including Beerus and Quitella???!
It doesn’t make ANY sense!
Unless they retcon his strength to being much stronger than Jiren again...
That would solve ALL of it!
Simply have the Gods of Destruction sitting on top of the power hierarchy and pyramid once more..
It makes so much more sense afterall. Having a random space alien, gray, and mortal without any God Ki or UI at all surpass a freaking GOD OF DESTRUCTION never sat well with me, and makes zero sense. It’s downright ridiculous, disrespectful and blasphemous.
What do you think???
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Re: Do you think they should retcon Belmod’s power to being >>>>>> Jiren?
They could just mean that Jiren has more total ki than Belmod, but would lose in a fight due to techniques.
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Re: Do you think they should retcon Belmod’s power to being >>>>>> Jiren?
No that would be pointless, it"s very clear you have this hatred for Jiren but retconning his power is unnecessary.
And how does it not make sense for Jiren to be that strong when he has been training hard since he was a little child and power has been all he has been focused on? Makes a lot of sense.
Yet you love and will gladly defend Broly going from not even ssj level to God of destruction without any issue despite that being far far more disrespectul to the scaling.
And how does it not make sense for Jiren to be that strong when he has been training hard since he was a little child and power has been all he has been focused on? Makes a lot of sense.
Yet you love and will gladly defend Broly going from not even ssj level to God of destruction without any issue despite that being far far more disrespectul to the scaling.
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Re: Do you think they should retcon Belmod’s power to being >>>>>> Jiren?
Retconning his power IS neccesary! If Beerus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Current UI Goku >>>>>>>>> Jiren >>> Belmod. Than how the hell was Belmod performing as well as he did during the ToP???! This must be retconned in order for it to make sense. And you know it.TCH wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:18 am No that would be pointless, it"s very clear you have this hatred for Jiren but retconning his power is unnecessary.
And how does it not make sense for Jiren to be that strong when he has been training hard since he was a little child and power has been all he has been focused on? Makes a lot of sense.
Yet you love and will gladly defend Broly going from not even ssj level to God of destruction without any issue despite that being far far more disrespectul to the scaling.
There’s a whole new theme going on right now in this Arc, that puts the Hakai technique on equal stature with UI.. And If Belmod has been a GoD for many thousands of years at least.. (which is true), then he’s had a lot of time to hone and master it.. unlike Toppo..
There’s no reason why Belmod would be weaker than Jiren..
Re: Do you think they should retcon Belmod’s power to being >>>>>> Jiren?
When Toppo compares Jiren and Belmod in the manga, he does only on combat skill perspective. So, he is likely superior to Jiren in other skills.
Re: Do you think they should retcon Belmod’s power to being >>>>>> Jiren?
Or, and hear me out here, Beerus is not as strong as you're hyping him to be.
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Re: Do you think they should retcon Belmod’s power to being >>>>>> Jiren?
If you're finding a flaw in your reasoning and can only make it work through retcons or pretending certain things never happened, then maybe you should entertain the possibility that your initial hypothesis isn't as accurate as you think it is.
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Re: Do you think they should retcon Belmod’s power to being >>>>>> Jiren?
They could explain it by saying Jiren had a special technique and didn't use normal ki, or just that Jiren had so much pure brute force that it even overwhelms GoD power.
If you feel this is ruining your enjoyment of the series though, just remember it's not meant to be analyzed this much, so don't take it so seriously
If you feel this is ruining your enjoyment of the series though, just remember it's not meant to be analyzed this much, so don't take it so seriously
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Re: Do you think they should retcon Belmod’s power to being >>>>>> Jiren?
Vermoud is a trickster, and that's why he did so well in the battle royale. He "played dead" to avoid fighting toward the end.
Re: Do you think they should retcon Belmod’s power to being >>>>>> Jiren?
Yeah he was clearly going to jump whoever won out of Beerus and the rat.batistabus wrote: ↑Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:26 pm Vermoud is a trickster, and that's why he did so well in the battle royale. He "played dead" to avoid fighting toward the end.
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Re: Do you think they should retcon Belmod’s power to being >>>>>> Jiren?
I don't really care tbh. Belmond is irrelevant to the story.
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Re: Do you think they should retcon Belmod’s power to being >>>>>> Jiren?
Just let Belmod do a couple of hakais to show that he may be a clown-faced Hakkaishin, but he's still a god of destruction.
"Don't take pleasure in destruction!" / "I will not let you destroy my world!"
A true hero goes beyond not the limits of power, but the limits that divide countries and people.
A true hero goes beyond not the limits of power, but the limits that divide countries and people.
Re: Do you think they should retcon Belmod’s power to being >>>>>> Jiren?
There's no retconning necessary. A lot of us have been showing you all, pointing out the breadcrumbs Toriyama-san, Toyotaro, and Toei staff have been using to imply that Beerus is the strongest GoD. The manga makes it very clear but even the anime makes no definitive statement that Jiren is stonger than Beerus. People just took a few statements and ran wild with it, as always.
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Re: Do you think they should retcon Vermoud’s power to being greater than Jiren's?
There is no need to change his strength. Belmod can be considerably weaker than Beerus and still be able to hurt him in combat. Not to mention that in the Battle Royal, his main strategy was to play dead, possibly to attack the last remaining (already tired) GoD, so most of the time he wasn't exactly fighting. The manga also makes it clear that Jiren is stronger than Belmond when it comes to battle power, so Belmod can easily have some Godly technique (like Beerus) that gives him the edge in a battle against Jiren
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Re: Do you think they should retcon Vermoud’s power to being greater than Jiren's?
Who changed my topic title without me knowing it??? It said Belmod at first. Now it’s Vermoud suddenly.. Even though Belmod is the official Dub name.. I wasn’t notified of this either..