Agreed that it was never stated, though I don't think that's Hugo's argument, that using hakai that way makes you stronger or powers you up in some way.GodVegetto91 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 2:25 pmI mean, I’m all for the theory that the Hakai user can use the massive energy released from an erased object to make himself stronger for battle. The problem is ofcourse that this is never fully stated. And the implication for that isn’t exactly “too” strong either.Koitsukai wrote: ↑Thu Apr 01, 2021 1:57 pm I think you are both on the same page, if I understood what Hugo is trying to say, he means Beerus forces an object or subject to release a large amount of energy when they are destroyed, and that the bang isn't made by Beerus' energy but from the object itself.
So it doesn't matter how strong the hakai-user is when it comes to creating the bang as long as they can make that thing go boom, and what Vegeta is learning is how to make that happen.
So Jiren can be stronger than Vermoud but at the same time he can still be defeated or killed by this technique.
However, if Belmod can use that energy for battle and to power himself up, then the end result is the same: He’s stronger than Jiren.. (with it.)
It still doesn’t explain “HOW” they make the target go “boom” and be erased ofcourse.
I believe the thing is it doesn't have to make them stronger for battle, for instance if I fight Tyson but I have a shotgun, I can kill or harm him, and definitely defeat him but I'm not actually stronger than he is. I mean, in absolute terms, yes, I would be "stronger" because I have a weapon that happens to be stronger than Tyson, but I haven't actually changed.
In that case, you could say the same Toppo said about them: Tyson has a much higher battle power than I have... but I have a 12-gauge(hakai).
I think (hope) we'll learn more about the HOW, but my guess is we won't learn MUCH more. Probably because the writers have no idea either of how it actually works or care.
Basically, I believe Hugo was saying that hakai is like a hax that makes things "self-destruct" in a way.