Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 78 - Official Discussion Thread

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Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 78 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by VegettoEX » Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:26 am

Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 78

ガスの願い
Gasu no Negai
Gas' Wish


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Release Information:

JAPAN:
Date: November 20, 2021
Publication: V-Jump, January 2022 Issue
Cost: ¥600

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(V-Jump is forward-dated two months from its actual release window. Issues are released on the 21st of each month, barring a Sunday or a holiday, in which case the issue gets moved up a day appropriately. As November 21st is a Sunday, this means the issue is coming out on Saturday, November 20.)

INTERNATIONAL:
Date: November 19, 2021 (timed to the JP midnight-on-November-20th release)
Publication: Digital (Viz/Shonen Jump + Manga Plus)
Cost: Free

FIRST OFFICIAL TEASE:
As part of the "Weekly Dragon Ball News" segment on November 8, Victory Uchida (Shueisha employee/mascot, and editor for the Dragon Ball Super manga working alongside Toyotaro and Akira Toriyama) displayed a page/panel tease for the upcoming drafts on screen, which will (tentatively) be shared on November 13. From what little we can see in this preview, Toronbo (the presumed name of this dragon, as extracted from the syllables used to make a wish to this specific dragon when compared to those spoken to Porunga) states, "You, who have gathered the two Dragon Balls. You may state your wish." In response, Elec says, "I don't believe it. So this is the wish-granting dragon...!"

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STORYBOARDS/DRAFTS:
The first several pages of any given chapter's roughs/storyboards/drafts have been posted on the official Dragon Ball website for quite some time now (in all likelihood done in an attempt to combat piracy and control the narrative by releasing teases of specific information and context at their own discretion). The drafts for Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 78 were posted on November 13. As these specific articles are generally removed from the website upon the chapter's formal release, archived versions of these links (such as this) are generally shared by fandom.

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THREAD/DISCUSSION INFORMATION

This is the "official" discussion thread for Dragon Ball Super manga chapter 78. All content regarding this specific chapter would be great to include here in this thread, rather than the dedicated / larger / all-encompassing ongoing thread. Posts that are specific to the individual chapter in the gigantic thread with no relevance to the larger series will be reported and/or removed.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 78 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by jd55513 » Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:43 am

However I think we will see the "worst wish in history"
As for a knowledge oriented wish, they may make the following: Wish for the greatest army in the universe(which is a amped up 0G-73 army) which fufills thier wish of having an army in the first place
OR They wish to know everything, essentially they wish for all the knowledge Zuno has. This could immediately be dangerous, as "knowing everything" is rather vague, it could include all techniques and weaknesses? etc.

I do think they will make multiple wishes to accomplish whatever thing they desire, whether its strictly power, knowledge or something in between, like with Granolah, Toronbo seems to require a “monkey paw” or equivalent exchange to make such powerful request.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 78 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Mon Nov 08, 2021 11:17 am

This one releases on saturday the 20th right? It's really right around the corner, I'm not feeling each chapter takes forever to come out.


I hope this one really takes as to the next part of the arc, but the wish is going to be the cliffhanger. Probably we'll get the wish asked, and chapter 79 will tell us if Toronbo can do it or not, or if they'll offer some help like they did with Granola's wish.

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Post by PurestEvil » Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:37 pm

What’s gonna happen to this thread when the following chapter is released?
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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:42 pm

PurestEvil wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:37 pm What’s gonna happen to this thread when the following chapter is released?
The same thing as past episode threads - it continues to exist for ongoing discussion regarding this specific chapter.
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Post by OLKv3 » Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:32 pm

jd55513 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:43 am However I think we will see the "worst wish in history"
As for a knowledge oriented wish, they may make the following: Wish for the greatest army in the universe(which is a amped up 0G-73 army) which fufills thier wish of having an army in the first place
OR They wish to know everything, essentially they wish for all the knowledge Zuno has. This could immediately be dangerous, as "knowing everything" is rather vague, it could include all techniques and weaknesses? etc.

I do think they will make multiple wishes to accomplish whatever thing they desire, whether its strictly power, knowledge or something in between, like with Granolah, Toronbo seems to require a “monkey paw” or equivalent exchange to make such powerful request.
I'm expecting Elec to wish for this too, and become some kind of all knowing god. Which will backfire and drive him insane

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 78 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by pepd » Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:51 pm

They already got a lot of knowledge from Zuno, I expect and hope for a wish with immediate impact that puts their plans in motion.

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Post by Koitsukai » Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:54 pm

Probably this will be one of Monaito's last chapters. He's old, and Toronbo probably will grant this wish and be removed from the story one way or another.

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Post by MCDaveG » Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:30 pm

This is actually cool and I welcome this decision, because in general discussion, people get sidetracked or the general topic gets big and getting back after few days is hard.

I wonder what wish Gas gets, strongest warrior to get toe to toe with main characters, Granola and Freeza?
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 78 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Yuji » Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:15 pm

I know the disclaimer in the OP is there for legal reasons, but we have a pretty credible leaker in our forum dumping chapter summaries every month. Are we supposed to ignore them?

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Post by VegettoEX » Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:39 pm

Yuji wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:15 pm I know the disclaimer in the OP is there for legal reasons, but we have a pretty credible leaker in our forum dumping chapter summaries every month. Are we supposed to ignore them?
If what an individual posts on the forum here is worthwhile and accurate, their posts right here are/is the primary source(s) -- and that's fine to discuss, provided that it's text-only (real information about real-world productions is fine to discuss), rather than including actual visuals from stolen merchandise.

I know it's a weird distinction to make, but thank you for understanding and abiding.

(For what it's worth, I didn't include the "disclaimer" for "legal reasons" -- I wrote it because it's the right thing to do and the right way to act as fans.)
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Post by TKA » Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:01 pm

This is a good move. Finding old stuff i posted is difficult under the previous model.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:15 pm

They are likely going to wish back 7-3 which is why the Heaters ask Granolah to find him. Elec could be the real creator of 7-3.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 78 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:36 am

Hellspawn28 wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:15 pm They are likely going to wish back 7-3 which is why the Heaters ask Granolah to find him. Elec could be the real creator of 7-3.
But weren't the guys Granola stole 7-3 from, the people that built them and had an army of them at their disposal? I might've assumed that, or maybe it was stated, I don't remember.

Also, 7-3 isn't dead, he was regaining his full form slowly, probably by now he should be fully recovered. But they could wish for something 7-3 related.

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:47 am

I have a feeling that Elec has a plan to betray his whole squad, if this story wraps up with him being loyal to his crew up until his death or imprisonment, I'd be surprised for sure.
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Post by PurestEvil » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:51 am

goku the krump dancer wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:47 am I have a feeling that Elec has a plan to betray his whole squad, if this story wraps up with him being loyal to his crew up until his death or imprisonment, I'd be surprised for sure.
Considering how Elec's "squad" are literally his siblings, him betraying them would be pretty damn evil.
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:01 pm

Oh they're related? I guess I missed that part. Even still though there's something about him that gives off slime ball energy.
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Post by Koitsukai » Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:37 pm

Maybe they are brothers like Goku and Krilin are brothers... because Gas looks like Buu and Elecc and the rest looks like regular people... with pointy ears.

They have similar eyes, hair and ears, but Gas has no nose. Maybe they are from the same race but not actually related.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 3:01 pm

I don't want 7-3 to be the final villain of this arc because he would probably rehash Moro with his copy powers.
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Post by Xeogran » Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:08 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:47 am I have a feeling that Elec has a plan to betray his whole squad
I sure hope not, that would just be a rehash of Moro betraying Cranberry. I want the authors to focus not on predictable twists, but on a competent story.

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