Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 87 - Official Discussion Thread
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 87 - Official Discussion Thread
I guess he trained for like five minutes.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 87 - Official Discussion Thread
You're overthinking the shit out of it man . Frieza's a super racist and calls Saiyans monkeys. Black people also get called monkeys. So it's a funny coincidence. That's it. It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to be funny.Extreme_kai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:01 pmBut it doesn't, as I explained before. Saiyans are literal space monkeys, earth has no parallel and to say as much is just... Well, it's just not good. Also, Saiyans weren't victims they were ruthless monsters, a bigger ruthless monster just stepped in and took over their "enterprise. Just saying if you're going to make a "funny" at least make it make sense.jjgp1112 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:54 pmIt's just a joke, breh It just so happens to parallel a real-life racial epithet thrown at a different group of people so we find humor in it.Extreme_kai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:12 pm
I will never get this lame played-out joke. Saiyan's literally turn into giant space monkey's and Goku was known as a little monkey boy who is based on Sun Wukong(the monkey king). I don't get why people make a big issue of it and force real-world scenarios into it despite them not being applicable. I guess it's supposed to be funny? Haha...
Anyways, this Chapter was a terrible end to an equally terrible arc.
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 87 - Official Discussion Thread
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Freeza didn't want to kill Goku and Vegeta because he probably wants to win them in a fair fight.
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Saiyanpilled Freeza!Hellspawn28 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:31 pm Freeza didn't want to kill Goku and Vegeta because he probably wants to win them in a fair fight.
Next thing you know he'll be babysitting Bra!
(Please make this official, Toriyama)
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Since when Frieza fights fair?Hellspawn28 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:31 pm Freeza didn't want to kill Goku and Vegeta because he probably wants to win them in a fair fight.
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Freeza could have changed during the past year since the ToP for all we know.
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Sorry guys, but this is the bottom for me.
Everything is so wrong that's very hard for me to comment or justify the thing.
As said, the arc *had to end*, so no major opponent to fight. There are literallly *HUNDREDS* of narrative solutions you can use to solve the situation, but the one picked is on the bottom of the list.
Show a major opponent again, but avoid any relevant friction. So, no narrative.
There's no narrative in this arc, it's a showreel of characters and action panels. All narrattive strands cutted and ignored. Heeters wasted, Granolah wasted, literally years of fight against someone that got wasted.
Can you figure out this *entire arc* had no consequences? Like it never happened?
This manga is not made by your friends on some fanfic site, is theoretically made by professionals. They should do pro jobs. Write pro level. Coming with idea pro level.
There's nothing I can save from it. It's offensive to your intellect. It's offensive to everyone intellect. You should start to protest.
Everything is so wrong that's very hard for me to comment or justify the thing.
As said, the arc *had to end*, so no major opponent to fight. There are literallly *HUNDREDS* of narrative solutions you can use to solve the situation, but the one picked is on the bottom of the list.
Show a major opponent again, but avoid any relevant friction. So, no narrative.
There's no narrative in this arc, it's a showreel of characters and action panels. All narrattive strands cutted and ignored. Heeters wasted, Granolah wasted, literally years of fight against someone that got wasted.
Can you figure out this *entire arc* had no consequences? Like it never happened?
This manga is not made by your friends on some fanfic site, is theoretically made by professionals. They should do pro jobs. Write pro level. Coming with idea pro level.
There's nothing I can save from it. It's offensive to your intellect. It's offensive to everyone intellect. You should start to protest.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 87 - Official Discussion Thread
He did give a bit of his energy to Goku in the anime version of the ToP, so there is this precedent.Trouser wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:53 pmSince when Frieza fights fair?Hellspawn28 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:31 pmFreeza didn't want to kill Goku and Vegeta because he probably wants to win them in a fair fight.
With that said, I doubt that's the case here.
Yeah, me too. King Kai's planet is one of the two locations in Dragon Ball never visited by Vegeta, it's about time to rectify that.
Yes, I want Vegeta to visit the Kame House, too.
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 87 - Official Discussion Thread
Freeza realized that being a social media influencer was a thousand times more difficult than conquering the universe and switched over to playing that game instead. Now he just beats up Gokuu and Vegeta for fun.
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We can only hope, right? (Though I've been hoping for too long...).Extreme_kai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:10 pmGranolah bar arc is finally over and now DBS can move on to other things as if those "other things" will be any good.
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 87 - Official Discussion Thread
I would actually like Frieza to hold up a cellphone in one hand while he takes out Goku/Vegeta with the other
Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 87 - Official Discussion Thread
It's not a matter of being fair, it's more pride - Frieza thought he was the top dog in the living universe but got his ass whooped in a 1v1 fight not once, but twice to a mere monkey. So now he's motivated to prove he can beat that simian trash on his terms in a fight. He doesn't necessarily want a "fair" fight so much as a victory with no asterisks.Trouser wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:53 pmSince when Frieza fights fair?Hellspawn28 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:31 pm Freeza didn't want to kill Goku and Vegeta because he probably wants to win them in a fair fight.
(Being that it's Frieza, he'll start cheating the second the tables turn, but still. From the onset, it makes sense)
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
Bulma: Of course! I'm not gonna pull a Frieza and screw it up!
Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
Cold World (Fanfic)
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Bulma: Of course! I'm not gonna pull a Frieza and screw it up!
Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
Cold World (Fanfic)
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 87 - Official Discussion Thread
God, yes, please. That would be amazing. Especially if he was STREAMING IT!
"HEY THERE KAMITUBE WELCOME TO MY STREAM! REMEMBER THAT WHILE I'M SMASHING THESE SAIYAN MONKIES I NEED YOU TO SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON AND SUBSCRIBE!"
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Gogeta didn't kill Frieza, so he is just paying them back.
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The TOP ARC sucked
Then the Moro arc was Good until it sucked
Then the Granola arc was good until it sucked
you guys still have hopes for this manga?
I'm going to keep reading/checking it because I'm a DB fan, but I'm done waiting for it to be good or taking it seriously.
I dont know whos fault is, if is a team problem, Toyotaro or Toriyama, and I'm not going to insult them or questioning their hard work, but I dont understand how the japanese dont complain about the current state of this manga, or stop buying it or something, because they are only going to listening to them, but I guess they think is not that bad or something? I'm saying this because I saw the japanese getting mad and complaining in Dokkan or other franchises, and that almost always forces a change, but the sales are still good I think? so I'm not anticipating any improvements.
Then the Moro arc was Good until it sucked
Then the Granola arc was good until it sucked
you guys still have hopes for this manga?
I'm going to keep reading/checking it because I'm a DB fan, but I'm done waiting for it to be good or taking it seriously.
I dont know whos fault is, if is a team problem, Toyotaro or Toriyama, and I'm not going to insult them or questioning their hard work, but I dont understand how the japanese dont complain about the current state of this manga, or stop buying it or something, because they are only going to listening to them, but I guess they think is not that bad or something? I'm saying this because I saw the japanese getting mad and complaining in Dokkan or other franchises, and that almost always forces a change, but the sales are still good I think? so I'm not anticipating any improvements.
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Re: Dragon Ball Super: Manga Chapter 87 - Official Discussion Thread
I’m actually really digging this chapter the more I think about it. I think it’s super cathartic that Freeza comes out of nowhere and just utterly destroys Gas. He’s been the most boring foe in all of Super, so to have Freeza reduce him to bones and then crushing his skull was satisfying.
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Your post sums up why this is an issue though.Super Saiyan Swagger wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:05 pm I’m actually really digging this chapter the more I think about it. I think it’s super cathartic that Freeza comes out of nowhere and just utterly destroys Gas. He’s been the most boring foe in all of Super, so to have Freeza reduce him to bones and then crushing his skull was satisfying.
Frieza wasn't involved in this story, yet just came out of nowhere and ended it. It's not catharsis that the bad guy has gotten his comeuppance; it's catharsis that the story is finally over. I'm just one guy, but I don't think the takeaway you want from your story is "Aren't you glad this story is finally over?"
At the risk of a deletion and a warning, I watched your video and man... seeing Goku pull out a Glock and shooting a woman is a bizarre thing that's got me feeling some kinda way.
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