Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by MCDaveG » Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:09 am

Didn't watch the episode, but hooray! I remember six years ago, being hyped by Kai's first episode. Later turned down by horrible reanimated scenes, but kind of enjoying the Yamamoto score.
After the scandal and ending the Kai with Cell and lot of internet sheeps going ''this is where it was supposed to end'', Kai died for me completely.

I watched few episodes from the Buu arc, but I seriously don't like Sumitomo's music, the openings and endings and more so, the Buu arc was just like re-cut of Z with no major changes (Colouring the Vegeta's armor in Saiyan arc before coming to Earth was a nice touch).
Dragon Ball Z is still the superb and major means for me to watch the manga adaptation. Only thing that makes me uncomfortable is missing the proper ending from manga (which Toriyama later updated) because of GT.
Kai had a chance in this regard and simply blew it.
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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by TheRed259 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:00 am

So they didn't use Mr. Satan's theme at all in this series. I wish the music placement was better but it's fine. At least, it was way better than the old repetitive Kikuchi music we had in the previous arcs.

DragonBall Kai is just DragonBall Z so I can't help but love it and it's really awesome that DragonBall Z still keeps going strong even in 2015.

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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by NinjaGoku » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:21 am

What were the final two tracks from this episode? They were really great, topped any other bgm I've heard from the finale of DBZ across all the dubs.

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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by Darkblade1995 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:43 am

The very last track is called Goku on the International OST. The one before that has the fan-called name Good always wins if I remember correctly. It first played when Buu was defeated.

Anyhow, I enjoyed this episode, and I'm still kinda sad to see Kai go. Yes Kai had it's good things and bad things, like every other anime/movie/show, but I enjoyed the ride. To me it still is the best way to watch DBZ, but that's just my opinion. Anyways on to Dragon Ball Super.

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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by NinjaGoku » Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:25 am

Darkblade1995 wrote:The very last track is called Goku on the International OST. The one before that has the fan-called name Good always wins if I remember correctly. It first played when Buu was defeated.

Anyhow, I enjoyed this episode, and I'm still kinda sad to see Kai go. Yes Kai had it's good things and bad things, like every other anime/movie/show, but I enjoyed the ride. To me it still is the best way to watch DBZ, but that's just my opinion. Anyways on to Dragon Ball Super.
Many thanks, still wondering if the music from this Kai will be used in Super, some of it is great. Hopefully they release the second soundtrack in Europe too, it makes sense!

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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by eledoremassis02 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:43 am

Kai ended with a very Disney feel to it. Especially when Goku blasts off with Oob

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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:18 pm

Darkblade1995 wrote:The very last track is called Goku on the International OST.
So, that's the track they use for that final scene?

I had a feeling that it was going to be used there.
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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by MagicBox » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:15 pm

I finally watched the episode. This is the first one I've watched since... Vegeta's sacrifice? I'm really not sure. But I adore the Goku / Uub fight and I didn't want to miss the series finale.

Dammit, I'm really enjoying Megumi Urawa reprising Uub. I don't want her to go away again! This is why I really hope Super eventually goes past the epilogue. I want more of this character and his voice actress!

Once again, and unsurprisingly, the music is the main flaw. Why is everything being played so seriously? Goku VS Uub is one of the only pure "feel good" fights in the series. There are no stakes. Everybody's cheering. Piccolo's smiling. Goku has a grin on his face the entire time. Give us a happy moment!

I still can't believe they (ONCE AGAIN) didn't let Jōji Yanami say the narrator's final lines from the manga. That would have made the whole show worth it! I'd have forgiven everything Kai had done if we could have gotten that last speech. Uhjfgjkvhjkyh.
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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:35 pm

The Z version of the Uub fight had some serious music too. The final episode opened with the piece from Movie 13 where Hildegarn was forced out of Tapion, which is a relatively dark piece.
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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by Ajay » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:49 pm

Metalwario64 wrote:The Z version of the Uub fight had some serious music too.
It does, indeed. In fact, most of the fight is quite intense in Z. I still stand by this track being absurdly dark for the fight, however. It's made even worse when this is literally what plays before it.

The whole fight just had this horrible mish mash of tones that ultimately ruined one of my favourite parts of the series.
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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:12 pm

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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by Dank Hill » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:41 pm

It's funny how I'll go to /r/dbz and people generally love Kai, but I'll come here and it's the opposite. Two different crowds, I s'pose.
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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:49 pm

Dank Hill wrote:It's funny how I'll go to /r/dbz and people generally love Kai, but I'll come here and it's the opposite. Two different crowds, I s'pose.
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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by ParkerAL » Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:07 am

Well, I think we can all agree on one thing. Dragon Ball Kai definitely happened. There's no denying that little historical footnote. :lol:

Seriously, what an odd journey this has been. As a product, Dragon Ball Kai missed pretty much every mark imaginable when it comes to quality assurance. Haphazard music placement, shoddy reanimated scenes, questionably remastered footage -- the list goes on and on. Who would have thought we'd ever see a Dragon Ball product that features Funimation's dub as its best attribute? At least the show accomplished one impressive feat. It made Dragon Ball Z in English listenable.

Meanwhile, for Japanese fans, I supposed Dragon Ball Kai will forever be summed up perfectly by Majin Buu's "corrected" arm from Episode 130 -- a pointless, sloppy edit of Dragon Ball Z that illustrates utter ineptitude.
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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by Cold Skin » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:11 pm

ParkerAL wrote:a pointless, sloppy edit of Dragon Ball Z that illustrates utter ineptitude.
I'd say an edit that actually makes Dragon Ball Z finally at least decent to watch nowadays, on the contrary of the original show. And that's all Kai ever pretended to do.

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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by TheRed259 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:52 pm

Darkblade1995 wrote:The one before that has the fan-called name Good always wins if I remember correctly.
I tried to rip the full version of this track if anyone is interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbrEEtMDAus
And that's the 3rd variation of Goku's theme. We heard the first one in the 1st episode of the Japanese Version of Buu Kai.

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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by Naruto6583 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:48 pm

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Darkblade1995 wrote:The one before that has the fan-called name Good always wins if I remember correctly.
I tried to rip the full version of this track if anyone is interested. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbrEEtMDAus
And that's the 3rd variation of Goku's theme. We heard the first one in the 1st episode of the Japanese Version of Buu Kai.
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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by TheRed259 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:06 pm

I just noticed that they didn't correct Ox-King's beard. They left it uncoloured.
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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by Naruto6583 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:10 pm

TheRed259 wrote:I just noticed that they didn't correct Ox-King's beard. They left it uncoloured.
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Re: Kai Episode 159 (28 June 2015)

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:14 am

It's finally over!

Well, Boo arc could have been much better if they had removed filler like they did in Saiyan-Cell arcs, but whatever. They cut 92 episodes into 61, which is great. The music is much better in DBZ, but I don't find the music in Kai awful, I believe it's just good. The video quality is better than DBZ's, and it's nice to have it in 16:9 (properly, not like FUNi did it), and even though there is this green tint in the image, DBZ has a red tint, so both are equally flawed in this one. As for the censorship, at least it happened only twice (right?). Also sucks that we didn't get the Kanzenban ending though.
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