Roshi did the same thing base Goku did against Hit,he predicted Gano's attacks.Zagacious wrote:The show is also very inconsistent between what the characters say and what is actually represented in the action. For example this last episode between Roshi and Ganos where Ganos constantly says "I should be more powerful!" etc to make it seem like Roshi is really winning with strategy, when really he was just faster and more powerful than Ganos even when he was transformed. See my previous post for a timeline showing the battle because I'm sick of people just saying "It's not inconsistent" or Roshi won with strategy" without giving a single example.HeroR wrote:You mean posters like you who downplay 17 and claim that he isn't near Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku despite Goku saying he was pushed to that form, and both him and 17 were hiding back?Zagacious wrote:[
It's more because the show ignores it's own context, character statements, and techniques. The Krillin and 17 ones are probably the least complained about, so it's funny you'd mention those two, even if the way they represented it was poor , most reasonable people just assume Goku was holding back then. I'm not going to go into all the examples here because it would be too lengthy, but bringing up the least inconsistent examples just to make it look like everything in Super is actually consistent is just not true.
Outside of some wackiness, Super is nowhere near as inconsistent as some believe.
Roshi vs Ganos:
1:15 - Roshi strikes Ganos as he approaches him, clear show of outpowering him.
1:30 - Roshi shows superior speed and Ganos cannot even touch him
1:50 - Roshi again shows superior speed and dodges Ganos' attack
2:15 - Roshi blasts Ganos while he's on the ground
2:45 - Roshi shows superior speed and is dodging most of Ganos' attacks
0:45 - Roshi uses hypnotism, Ganos falls out of hypnotism within a few seconds and provides no benefit to Roshi
1:30 - Roshi is knocked down by Ganos briefly
2:30 - Roshi uses Kamehameha and overpowers Ganos
Surpressed Hit was still stronger and faster than base Goku,yet Goku still made him bleed.
Ganos was stronger and faster than Roshi as both he and Ganos himself stated.
When Roshi uses hypnotism,Ganos damaged himself to snap out of it(this is more important than you give it credit for as Ganos took damage).
Roshi did not overpower Ganos,he outdamaged him.