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Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

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General Discussion for Dragon Ball Super 1-hour special, aired 8 October 2017

これぞ全宇宙一の究極バトル!孫悟空VSジレン!!
Kore zo Zen-Uchuu-Ichi no Kyuukyoku Batoru! Son Gokuu VS Jiren!!
This is the No.1 Ultimate Battle in the Omni-verse! Son Goku vs Jiren!!



Episode 109

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悟空に迫る最強の敵!今こそ放て!必殺の元気玉!!
Gokuu ni Semaru Saikyou no Teki! Ima Koso Hanate! Hissatsu no Genki-Dama!!
The Strongest Enemy Closes in on Goku! Fire It Now! The Surefire Genki-Dama!!


Summary:
Goku continues to battle Ribrianne in his base state, but his attacks seem to be no match for the power of her love. In fact, Ribrianne is determined to win the tournament and use the Super Dragon Balls to become a “goddess of love” adored by all the universes. She asks Goku what he wants the Super Dragon Balls for, but he hasn’t quite decided yet: he could use them for Chi Chi’s sake, or for his sons…or to meet someone stronger than anyone he’s ever met before.

Ribrianne counters that in that case, his wish is already granted: she is that strong person! She absorbs the power of love from her teammates to transform into “Super Ribrianne”. Though physically she looks pretty much the same (except for newly added butterfly wings), Goku can sense incredible power from her. She fires off a barrage of love-based attacks, the last one of which creates a big explosion. Ribrianne declares victory, but Goku (now a Super Saiyan Blue) suddenly swoops in and sends her flying with a kick.

Ribrianne lands at Jiren’s feet, and from his silent gaze she thinks he might love her. However, she soon grows annoyed at this continued silence, and storms off in a huff. On the sidelines, the gods of Universe 11 decide that the time has come for Jiren to go into action. Vermoud telepathically contacts Jiren, ordering him to take out Goku and ignore any small fries. As Kale, No.18, and co. sense Jiren’s ki shaking the entire World of Void, Toppo likewise tells Jiren to fight to his heart’s content, in order to obtain the Super Dragon Balls and have his wish granted.

Goku and Jiren prepare to finally square off, and as Jiren powers up Beerus is shocked to see so much ki coming from just one single fighter. Goku, back in his base form, fires a Kamehameha off at Jiren, but the force of Jiren’s ki is enough to completely protect him as he remains motionless. Shin wonders why Goku doesn’t become Super Saiyan Blue; is he underestimating Jiren? Kuririn however thinks that Goku is simply testing out both Jiren and himself; he wants to show Jiren what he can do, and draw out Jiren’s full power.

While Goku may be interested in Jiren, Tenshinhan wonders if Jiren has any interest in Goku. But Kuririn says Jiren has in fact been watching Goku this whole time, and probably wants to see all of Goku’s power. Muten Roshi says that they have acknowledged one another as opponents worth powering themselves up for. Meanwhile, Goku continues to attack, going all the way from regular Super Saiyan up to Super Saiyan God, the latter of which merely warrants Jiren raising a hand to block him with.

Seeing that Jiren can’t get serious like this, Goku reverts to base, then finally powers up into Super Saiyan Blue. Vermoud is confident that even with the power of Blue this fight is a pointless struggle, but Kai thinks it is crucial: after all, Jiren defeating Goku’s full power will cause all the other contestants to lose their fighting spirit. Goku will be a sacrifice to show off Jiren’s power! While Marcaritta thinks they had better not get cocky, Vermoud declares that no one, absolutely no one, can beat Jiren. Indeed, despite Goku occasionally even using Kaio-Ken on top of Super Saiyan Blue, Jiren easily knocks him around, before finally grabbing him and blasting him at point-blank range.

Goku gets back up and charges Jiren with Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-Ken, but Jiren stops him seemingly just by glaring at him. In truth, Jiren attacked Goku countless times in an instant, so fast that even Vegeta couldn’t see. Kuririn still hasn’t abandoned hope though, saying that Goku should be able to use Kaio-Ken x20 on top of Super Saiyan Blue. But this fails to cheer Beerus up. As Whis explains, Goku is already using Kaio-Ken x20! Even with Kaio-Ken x20 failing to damage Jiren, Goku still has a trick up his sleeve…the Genki-Dama!

Goku begins gathering energy from his teammates, though he first reverts to his base state since (as Kuririn tells Tenshinhan) Super Saiyan has some evil mixed in and therefore can’t be used to gather energy. No.17 and 18 are happy to contribute their energy, as is Freeza, despite his unhappy memories of the attack. For some reason Vegeta refuses to donate his energy…though he does stop Ribrianne from attacking Goku while he charges the attack. Goku soon realizes that it will take too long to create the attack, but fortunately Jiren is willing to wait. He’s eager to see Goku’s special attack…then crush it with overwhelming power. That’s his style!

Goku finally finishes the Genki-Dama and throws it at Jiren, telling Jiren to not regret waiting. But Jiren starts pushing it back! Gohan’s shocked, since Goku should still have a fair amount of stamina left. Goku goes Super Saiyan Blue, then uses Kaio-Ken x10 and x20 all in an effort to push the Genki-Dama onto Jiren, but Jiren holds his ground. Despite Goku’s struggles, Jiren manages to push the Genki-Dama back onto Goku, threatening to envelope him with his own attack…


Episode 110

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孫悟空覚醒!目覚めし者の新たなる極意!!
Son Gokuu Kakusei! Mezameshi-Mono no Arata-naru Goku'i!!
Son Goku Awakens! New Mastery of the Awakened!!


Summary:
As Jiren pushes the Genki-Dama back at Goku, the U7 team are shocked to see even their old standby fail against him. Kai and Vermoud are pleased with Jiren: with Goku gone, U7’s morale is sure to collapse. While Goku continues to hold out with all his might with Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-Ken, Jiren only needs to stare at the Genki-Dama to keep it at bay. Clearly he’s got power to spare, and all watching are amazed at his strength. Seeing that Jiren is as strong as a God of Destruction, if not stronger, Whis realizes that the rumors of a universe with just such a mortal were true after all.

Still, Goku continues to try and push the Genki-Dama over to Jiren. Caught between Goku and Jiren's forces, the Genki-Dama’s expansion finally reaches its limit. Suddenly it disperses and Goku falls to the ground as a tremendous explosion shakes the arena. Toppo declares Jiren the winner! The Omni-Kings are amazed at first…but they and everyone else soon start to worry about Goku. Not only does he seem to have lost, but there’s no sight of him anywhere, within the ring or out, and nobody can sense his ki. Was he killed in the explosion? And if so, does this mean Jiren is disqualified?

The Great Priest steps in to declare that since Goku was (apparently) killed by his own technique, Jiren will incur no penalty. Though the remaining contestants haven’t lost their fighting spirit, for a while nobody makes a move. The Great Priest reminds everyone that the tournament’s time limit is not even halfway over, and so they must continue to fight. As Beerus wonders if Goku really is gone, the entire World of Void starts shaking from an intense flow of power. Could it be…?

Yes, Goku’s back, and all sparkly this time! With bright silver pupils, dark silver upturned hair, and a blazing aura to match, it is clear something has happened to him, but what? Though he’s releasing a stupendous amount of heat, his ki seems fearsomely calm. Even Whis has never seen Goku like this before. Jiren attacks Goku, but this time he easily dodges all of his attacks. Gohan can tell that Goku’s movements are totally different from before: not only is he fast, it’s also impossible to tell when he’s going to attack or dodge. Vegeta likewise finds Goku’s new movements unreal.

Toppo and Dyspo step in, but Goku has no trouble tossing them aside and avoiding Toppo’s Justice Flash blasts, causing Tenshinhan to marvel at the speed of his reactions and the accuracy of his movements. Finally, Jiren signals to Toppo to stay out of this. Jiren and Goku begin to battle again, and the two seem evenly matched. While No.17 is still not sure who has the upper hand, he can tell Goku has instantly closed the previously overwhelming power gap between himself and Jiren. Piccolo can tell that even now Goku continues to evolve as he fights, with his attacks against Jiren growing steadily more effective. Watching this unfold, Kai and Vermoud freak out to see someone go toe-to-toe with Jiren.

The Great Priest and Whis have a hunch as to the identity of Goku’s change, and Beerus thinks the same thing: it’s Ultra Instinct! Hearing this, Champa and the other gods can’t believe that a mortal like Goku could reach a state that even gods struggle with…though his movements seem to confirm this. The Great Priest thinks it is still too early to tell for sure, but this new development is definitely something to keep an eye on (meanwhile, the Omni-Kings seem not to know about Ultra Instinct…and neither does Shin).

Even if it is Ultra Instinct, Beerus doesn’t understand how this could have happened so suddenly. Whis thinks that the Genki-Dama was the trigger, causing Kuririn to wonder if Goku powered up by absorbing its energy. Tenshinhan points out that the Genki-Dama itself was no use against Jiren, so why would absorbing its power put them on even footing? Whis explains that Goku is indeed using the Genki-Dama’s energy as a temporary power source for his exhausted body, but the key factor is something else. Namely, struggling to overcome the Genki-Dama’s explosion as its power entered into him triggered Goku to crack through the shell of further possibilities hidden inside himself…or at least, that is what Whis thinks.

Goku and Jiren continue to evenly trade blows, but when Goku goes in for the kill, Jiren suddenly blocks his attack. Saiyans certainly are interesting, he says, but Goku seems to truly be at his limit this time. Indeed, the Ultra Instinct seems to have only been temporary: Goku reverts to his regular form and Jiren blasts him away. As he does so, Hit rushes in to attack, but Jiren effortlessly blocks his attack too. As Vados points out, warriors tend to leave themselves wide open when finishing off an opponent, but Jiren doesn’t even have that weakness.

While it looks like Hit and Jiren are about to fight, Vegeta approaches Goku, still flat on his back from Jiren’s attack. Vegeta wants to know what Goku’s new power was, but Goku isn’t too sure himself, and he seems to be out of energy regardless. As Ribrianne approaches Vegeta and Goku’s position, Goku suddenly Goku vanishes, snatched away by Freeza. Aiming a blast at Goku, Freeza is reminded of what happened on Planet Namek…

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:05 pm

Here we go! this special was everything and more of what I dreamed of for this ep, the hype was worth it! this went far beyond what I expected and wanted.
Goku's ''Migatte no Goku'i'' was hype as fuck! is there a word above hype? cause this deserves it.
Ribriane's got it bad for Jiren... she fell head over heels for him and she's playin it off in a tsundere way... Jesus haha.
Loved it when the GoDs were freaking out after seeing Goku master something that they havent, Beerus' reaction was priceless! I also liked how he was all ''are you really done for... is this really ok for you.. Goku... Son Goku''
Am I the only one weirded out when Freeza gave his energy to Goku with a smile smug on his face but Vegeta didnt.
I'm glad the Miggate no Goku'i was the actual form that Goku took and not the genkidama, I was nodding the whole time when Krillin said *Goku absorbed the spirit bomb so he closed the gap?* but was later flippin for joy when Whis said *no, thats different*
As for the new ED, it was great! not just the song but the visuals too! kid Goku with his tail and powerpole! GOOD OL DAYS! I always get teary when I see him slowly growing up like that, saw him as a lil kid fighting weird dinosaurs and now challenging the GoDs.. my boy's all grown up.
I'm surprised we didnt get any flashbacks, Toei really went all in with this special, they werent playin.
Popular belief or not but I actually like the explanation they gave about Migatte no Goku'i, its... unique in a way, but I would have been good if Toei didnt show a trailer of Goku slowly standing up, that was literally how he transformed.
Also wow, Goku was fighting in Migatte no Goku'i form without screaming with atatatatatata's, rather it was changed, whenever he screams theres an echo manly voice in the background haha.
After Goku masters this Migatte no Goku'i thing, Beerus, your kitty ass is next.
Stage shacking+bright light pops out+ Goku slowly standing up+ Miggate No Goku'i form slowly walking towards Jiren+white screen and instantly there+epic BGM kicks in= Ded

Prev: Hit is so screwed.
As the title say, this was really the No.1 Ultimate Battle in the omniverse!

The music, animation, choreography, direction, the reveals and their reactions.. holy hell, why cant we have more eps like this! 66 would have had an actual competition if it didnt had that Trunks moment in the end.
Last but not least... Jiren remains the most boring stoic bland main rival guy in the whole DB verse, even Oolong was more entertaining.

Overall its a solid 59/10! (yes, 59 for Goku) I cant stretch this enough but this was an amazing episode! well deserved hype.

PS. I'm still in awe.

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by SuperNamek » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:09 pm

This was certainty a fantastic episode. Easily one of the franchises best. It makes me even more excited to see what Super has in store for the future.

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Post by DBZ Macky » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:13 pm

Wow, Super really went beyond its limits for this one.
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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by MasterVampire » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:14 pm

I wonder if Golden Freezer could do any better against Jiren?

He didn't seem too impressed or worried.

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by TheShadowEmperor8055 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:15 pm

Ok so, Crunchyroll/Funimation or whatever are 2 hours late on uploading the episode, then they upload 110 first before 109 :lol: While I'm not too shocked by there being a delay because of all the traffic, I am surprised by them not announcing anything in light of the delay and then releasing 110 first before 109. Like, this has been an interesting night lmfao. :lol:

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:17 pm

It was a good episode with a lot of talk.

The Spirit Bomb was the reason he got the power. Frieza gave him energy but Vegeta didn't which was weird.

I assume Frieza at the end is going to give Goku some energy.

There was no eliminations for these episodes.

The Namekians appeared in the background twice but you could barely make them out.

I really don't know how Hit is going to get out of this Jiren fight still in.

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by Daisetsu » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:18 pm

TheShadowEmperor8055 wrote:Ok so, Crunchyroll/Funimation or whatever are 2 hours late on uploading the episode, then they upload 110 first before 109 :lol: While I'm not too shocked by there being a delay because of all the traffic, I am surprised by them not announcing anything in light of the delay and then releasing 110 first before 109. Like, this has been an interesting night lmfao. :lol:
Meanwhile, Daisuki has both episodes up but I keep getting an initialize error on #109. At least I got to watch the dub tonight...

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:19 pm

This is glorious. The direction, the music, the animation, the atmosphere! You name it. Jiren was a monster and INSERT song for the win!!!! :)
TheShadowEmperor8055 wrote:Ok so, Crunchyroll/Funimation or whatever are 2 hours late on uploading the episode, then they upload 110 first before 109 :lol: While I'm not too shocked by there being a delay because of all the traffic, I am surprised by them not announcing anything in light of the delay and then releasing 110 first before 109. Like, this has been an interesting night lmfao. :lol:
Daisuki uploaded on time but servers down, luckily the mobile app was working a-ok! HD no ads! :thumbup: Got lucky!

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by Bullza » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:21 pm

It delivered on all the hype. It was a great two part episode, very action packed with great animation and music.

Good fight as well from what I could see. I need to watch it again because I missed a small chunk early on when the stream went down.

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:22 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:This is glorious. The direction, the music, the animation, the atmosphere! You name it. Jiren was a monster and INSERT song for the win!!!! :)
TheShadowEmperor8055 wrote:Ok so, Crunchyroll/Funimation or whatever are 2 hours late on uploading the episode, then they upload 110 first before 109 :lol: While I'm not too shocked by there being a delay because of all the traffic, I am surprised by them not announcing anything in light of the delay and then releasing 110 first before 109. Like, this has been an interesting night lmfao. :lol:
Daisuki uploaded on time but servers down, luckily the mobile app was working a-ok! HD no ads! :thumbup: Got lucky!
Daisuki was definitely over an hour late.

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by Chuquita » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:24 pm

I'm so happy I was wrong.

Here I was thinking that DBS was getting a special because One Piece was getting one, but the way things turned out gives the appearance that it was the other way around. Like, Toei actually for once prioritized DBS instead of OP! :shock:
I guess nobody can actually get the short end of the stick 100% of the time. I'm really impressed that Toei actually put some love and attention into Super here.

As for the content:
The animation was amazing/fluid/exciting to watch.
The Ribrianne fight was a lot of fun; loved seeing Precure's miracle lights show up. Pleasantly surprised Ribrianne's still in the game.
Jiren's still an incredibly boring antagonist, but I've made my peace with that. Not every new big bad can be Rosé. Or Freeza for that matter.
Goku's new form is cool.
I loved seeing how excited Whis was to see his teachings in action coupled with sulking Beerus who hadn't fully mastered the technique himself.
Technically now that I think of it, Beerus has grey irises too when they show them.
I missed seeing Vegeta not giving to the genki dama (facepalms) but I imagine that was because plot-wise we'll need his power down the road.
The cliffhanger with Freeza looked cool, but the next episode preview spoiled it by showing that Goku's still ok.
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Post by JazzMazz » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:35 pm

Not really much to say. It was solid from pretty much every perspective. It was good if a little dumb, nothing more really to add.

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by Totamo » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:38 pm

You know it really feels like one piece got the short end of the stick here.


But enough about my second favorite work of fiction lets talk about my frist.


It was great and i felt like a 14 year old again.

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by BlueBasilisk » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:42 pm

Frieza of all people coming through in a clutch. Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine I'd see that.

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by precita » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:44 pm

The last shot of Freeza standing over Goku was chilling. I half expected Goku to get eliminated in this episode.

Not much else to say, although I feel they wasted too much time with Ribianne at the beginning of the episode, especially since she's just a joke character at this point.

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by Zagacious » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:47 pm

It was pretty good overall, but it felt more like it was only one episode. A LOT of just standing around and talking or looking at each other. It didn't really feel like an hour special, but just another episode. The only thing that made it special was the ending, which was very good, but this special was seriously over-hyped. They should have saved the special for when Goku and Jiren actually finish things off (in like 3-4 episodes it looks like). It adds another question to what is it that Jiren wants the Super Dragonballs to wish for. Nothing specifically was bad or anything, just wasted a lot of time for what was supposed to be an awesome hour of episode. First 20 or so minutes was pretty much a waste. This episode was only slightly above the Roshi episodes IMO

I'm pretty certain Frieza is giving him energy next episode, it wouldn't make sense for him to destroy him when he can always do that later after getting the Dragon Balls.

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by nato25 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:58 pm

Zagacious wrote:It was pretty good overall, but it felt more like it was only one episode. A LOT of just standing around and talking or looking at each other. It didn't really feel like an hour special, but just another episode. The only thing that made it special was the ending, which was very good, but this special was seriously over-hyped. They should have saved the special for when Goku and Jiren actually finish things off (in like 3-4 episodes it looks like). It adds another question to what is it that Jiren wants the Super Dragonballs to wish for. Nothing specifically was bad or anything, just wasted a lot of time for what was supposed to be an awesome hour of episode. First 20 or so minutes was pretty much a waste. This episode was only slightly above the Roshi episodes IMO

I'm pretty certain Frieza is giving him energy next episode, it wouldn't make sense for him to destroy him when he can always do that later after getting the Dragon Balls.
Fully agreed on Freezas actions there although i disagree with you. Maybe I'm just too much of a fan boy but i was grinning ear to ear as soon as ribrianne pissed off (how has no one knocked her off yet!!!). At least they gave her a cool ambition to work with.

I was absolutely estactic when I worked out why Whis was so happy. Goku finally accessed the move your body without thinking thing. Awesome pay off all the way as far back as episode 5. I cant believe i was that happy for a damn anime character.

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by SirTorra » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:58 pm

MasterVampire wrote:I wonder if Golden Freezer could do any better against Jiren?

He didn't seem too impressed or worried.
Frieza would get spanked 20x harder than goku.

I'm just glad it seems Hit is the one that's gonna job to jiren and not Vegeta.
As far as the episode goes, way to much talking and not enough fighting. 7/10

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Re: Super Episode 109-110 (8 October 2017)

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:00 am

For once I actually thought the talking added, it added more to the atmosphere and imo was needed.

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