While Indeed in the end I disagree on the topic nothing was gained for her, I can respect that we just opposite point so view in the end that at least we can think critically on and hopefully respect each other that as least we have a good debate on the topics we do.JazzMazz wrote:I agree with this, I think this goes to highlight how this arc would have been greatly benefitted if they spent the time to properly characterize each of the major players and what they believe so we can at least understand their character development.Asura wrote:The problem with all of that is that we never even understood what Ribrianne (and Universe 2) thought love meant in the first place. What exactly do they think it means? It's hard for me to grasp and understand the character's development if we're never even given a clue of where she's coming from or what she's trying to say. Instead, we just get "love" in every single sentence which tells us nothing aside from the fact that Ribrianne should belong to U3 with how much she repeats herself over and over like a robot.
And again, I really don't think her looks are the reason why people dislike her. Sure, they don't help, but the problem with her character isn't that she's fat, it's that she's just a bad gag that repeats herself over and over and over again. Where is the character? What is the character? Who the hell is Brianne other than a broken record? What does she stand for? Obviously it's not the same "love" as every other universe (or at least U7) feels, so what does their version of love mean? We're never given an answer. Is it supposed to be about superficial beauty? Cause there are some butt ugly motherfuckers in U2. Also Brianne seemed to take somewhat of a romantic/tsundere interest at Jiren despite the fact that Jiren is as bald as Krillin is. As a matter of fact, there's a bunch of bald dudes in U2, so if Ribrianne is using baldy as an insult that must mean being bald isn't beautiful to them... so...?
I highly doubt that 18 would take on a mentor role to teach Brianne about love, that's just never going to happen. I don't think Brianne, Sanka Ku, and Su Roas are going to be part of the new generation given they're barely even characters to begin with (especially Sanka Ku and Su Roas). I wouldn't be surprised if we never saw them again given their entire existence is for a gag. Cabba, Caulifla, and Kale have character, they have focus, they have clear personalities, sensible and easily understandable motivations, and you can take them seriously whereas Ribrianne doesn't seem like she was a character ever meant to be taken seriously. We'll definitely be seeing more of Cabba, Caulifla, and Kale.
I don't think Brianne was played brilliantly by TOEI at all. The message they were trying to get across with her character is that she talks about love but doesn't know what love is. Great idea, horrible execution. If only they would explain what the fuck she's talking about instead of just spouting the word "love" at every opportunity, this character could have been mildly interesting. What does Ribrianne mean when she says she fights with/for the power of love?
Toppo is a character who always talks about justice, nowhere near as much as Ribrianne talks about love, but still quite a lot. We actually get to see what justice is to Toppo though, we get to see why he thinks Goku is evil compared to his justice. We literally see him doing good deeds in his universe and protecting people, that is his justice. It's very clearly understood what Toppo means. He talks about justice a lot, but it actually makes sense. There's real meaning behind his words. With Brianne, there is none of that. Just a broken record with no clarification, no backstory, no clear indication of what love means to her. It seems to be implied that it's about superficial looks and the joke is that she's fat but they find that beautiful. The execution still doesn't make any sense though since I don't think Ribrianne ever comments on anyone's looks aside from this episode with Krillin. If that's what love meant to her, wouldn't we have seen her talk about how ugly other people in other universes are? Can't say I remember her doing that, although if she did let me know.
So in conclusion, the point of Ribrianne's character is... I don't know. Her character arc is... I don't know. Her idea of love is... I don't know.
I just don't know anything about this character and it's clear TOEI never planned to actually elaborate on her because she's a gag character, and that's why the scene at the end of this episode just doesn't work, because it's supposed to be built on development and characterization that came before it, and there was none.
I think it would have been a good idea in Ribriannes case to have her and her magical girl team actually fight a monster in there universe, and from there they could make clear what Ribrianne thinks love is about, so we actually understand where they are coming from. Instead we just get a mild idea about whatever the hell they're talking about, and they just repeat the word a million times.
In a story, its important to show something over telling, for the majority of the characters in the tournament, we don't have or tell to back any characterization they have since we weren't introduced to them previously.
Also like I said on another thread, I don't care much to keep going in a circle either about this topic, really I have my views that I will not alter and you will not either and I am ok with that. Time will tell Brianne and the Girls Future, even if they are erase I expect them back, so the future is more depended on what Toei wants, but no-one here can guarantee that no matter how much we think we know or try to explain, we just do theories.
Whatever Happens~~~Happens, I still enjoy her Character Like I meet others that did as well and still do. Others did not enjoy her, that is how it always goes, only the unnecessary harping about her got to much.
In the end Brianne ended on a good note that seem to indicate Toei is not done with her, that this might be only her opening and learning act, that is my theory. If it leads to nothing by Toei then while I will be disappointed, it will be what it will be, it is how it goes.
In the end I hope for the Best for Each of these characters, New or Classic, ones that got time to have some fleshing out to them I hope Toei does not give-up on, brings them back and fleshes out more, really Only time will tell.
Caulifla and Kale are part of the future of Dragon Ball and I came to like them a whole-lot by the end of this. I hope Toei is serious about making an arc with them in the future in U6, it seems greatly like they are going in that direction, I hope they keep that tease alive!