This is SSJ Ikari 2.0. I guess they're playing it safe, since this is likely not a Toriyama creation. It's merely the equivalent of MSSB from the manga. I'm curious if Toriyama came up with that or if Toyotaro did. I wonder if Toriyama literally just says "Goku greatly powered up" or "Vegeta greatly powered up" in his outlines and both sides of production use that vague-ness to create what they want.Artorias wrote:The problem is the writers should actually just come out and SAY that it is in fact SSB2. That's all they would have to do, but since they for whatever reason refuse to explain ANYTHING in this show, we're left to just make up our own headcanon, which is bad writing.
Before, I'd always thought that Toei pulled the trigger on SSBKK and that Toriyama later introduced the idea of MSSB, so Toei had to double down on using SSBKK because Goku and Vegeta already seemed to have few drawbacks with SSB in the anime. I don't think that makes a lot of sense though, because they could always just use MSSB whenever they wanted.
"SonReggie wrote:To be honest, Jiren feels more and more like a one-punch man parody.Draconic wrote:Jiren's regular punches just being that strong when he's using more of his power just screams Saitama.
I thought it was pretty obvious when he blew Maji Kayo away with a single hit that it's what the anime staff was going for. For the longest I was wondering where the bulk of Jiren's inspiration came from. There's Superman, of course and Saitama. Does anyone think All Might could've been one as well?