lord turbo wrote:SsjCookie wrote:Goku suddenly gaining the power of friendship and family after being so initially selfish all the time, really doesn't do much for me in the "feels" department.
By that account why didn't that trope work for Ribrianne or Heck... Vegeta if that were the case?
The message here is that those characters simply didn't care or try hard enough giving the unfortunate implications the only right way is F&F Goku's "I got family..." way.
For Vegeta it did work for him against Toppo to uses I Got Family Power and it lead him to Punching threw Toppo's God Power cause of that, so for a time it did work for him it seemed. I did not like it was written like that, seemed lazy just to say if you have more power you can punch threw Haiki Energy, but Toei has to answer that one.
But when it comes to Ribrianne it is only Cause of undercuting of writing and mythos that Toei Created themselves.
To Explain further what I mean ~~~~~ In Magical Girl Shows the showing of Combining of Love, Teamates and even citizen's Support from all around you, in this case it seemed ALL of U2 was behind U2's final 3 Warriors, is always the Greatest of Powers the Warriors in Magical Girl Shows can show and honestly an honorable showing that one can't win alone in all battles that I like being Honored allot in their Mythos. Heck, this is a Formula that Toei has Perfected Themselves in it own Magical Girl Shows with Precure and Sailor Moon Cool and Epic Effects!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmXtceaZyMU
But Toei did not seem to Honor its own Formula when it came to the Fight with Goku and just his plane Solo-Raw-Power?!
While Goku honor's U2 ideals the Power of Love saying he was impressed by it in 118, he Honors at that Moment his ideal at that time which is Guts for some reason, which seems odd for him it was always training harder and focusing his skills that got him threw most things and believing in those he cared about.
But, this leads into this battle he does not even needed any of that, not even his Friends and Family to power him up, just his Raw Power at Blue Level to beat a WHOLE Universe's Hopes in their Warrior's and Their Genki-Dama like attack.
It honestly raises the Debate that Goku can be seen at times becoming Way OP and even Broken in power if he is able to do this now and not even lose Stamina or get tired for to long over this. But also the writing with how these levels in the ToP has been SO MESS and Mis-Manged that I add it up to Toei just did not caring to explain his level of power their.
I have nothing against Goku and Wish the Best for his Fans, but I Rather better writing follow him being able to Defeat a WHOLE Universe then just Raw Power or the Fact that it might seem cause he is Goku that he is able to do it while other characters, even Vegeta's defeat of Toppo was this, was a Struggle for others.
It is Important to Honor Goku, but Others Like me, in this cause Ribrianne, U2 and Magical Girl Mythos, would like to Keep the Honor and Ideals of what makes the Characters and concepts we like and support to be Honored as well.
