Chickenchaser wrote:Hey guys what do you think Raditz Power Level is 1500 or 1200? In my opinion is 1,500 cuz Many list show's this battle power (WSJ/D7).
Neither. Between 1250 - 1350 is my sweet point.
My main argument being that the gap between 1200 and 1500 is huge, 80%. Such a difference is out of the range of
"rivals" as described by Nappa. While there's not any written in stone rules regarding gaps, there's enough examples with enough consistency to provide a template with discussable margins of error. Detailed information in the spoilers below.
[spoiler]Raditz (12xx, said so by Nappa) vs Goku (416) and Piccolo (408) Gap 66%
Raditz owns them both at the same time, there's no dispute that in a head-to-head fight this power difference is more than enough for dominance. I highlight that Goku and Piccolo had the advantage of ki-sensing/modification, besides the surprise factor.
Piccolo would never have been able to hit with his Makankosappo alone and he failed the first time with Goku's help.
Part 1: Goku (8.000) vs Vegeta (18.000) Gap 56%
This is rather short but we see Goku turned into a punching bag, just no chance at all. Another case of dominance.
Part 2: Kaioken x2 Goku (16.000) vs Vegeta (18.000) Gap 12%
This super short, what we see is Goku partially dodging Vegeta's attack. Which indicates that this wouldn't be a one way beat down. However, it appears Goku still wouldn't have any chance of victory in a head-to-head confrontation.
Part 3: Kaioken x3 Goku (24.000) vs Vegeta (18.000) Gap 25%
Vegeta gets dominated. He tries to fight back, failing to hit Goku. This is very one-sided.
Vegeta (24.000) vs Kiwi (18.000) Gap 25%
A panicked and fleeing Kiwi is easily killed by Vegeta. The difference between this fight and the previous gap 25% fight are three factors: Kiwi mental state in here does him harm, he's already a defeated man; Vegeta's toughness to resist Goku onslaught; Goku's suffering the stress of the Kaioken.
I would say there's consistency between both fight's, if we take into account the details and not simply raw power. The result would be the same, the impact changes due to the details.
Nail (42.000) vs First Form Freeza (530.000) Gap 93%
Overkill...
Conclusion: At the very least 25% power advantage is enough to own, even with other factors like toughness, mental state and ki-sensing/modifying advantages. Vegeta is one of the biggest tanks in the series, that wouldn't stop him from losing to Kaioken x3 Goku.
I should note that if you let yourself get hit by a Genki Dama or allow Piccolo to charge his Makankosappo for an hour, you're gonna lose. Special techniques can cover any gap, what I'm discussing is a head-to-head type of confrontation.
Based on other fight's that we can kinda guess the characters power level, I theorize that a gap of 10/15% can be overcome by skill, intelligence, toughness, team work, etc...
10% or less and we should have an entertaining and even fight.[/spoiler]
Regarding your arguments. Raditz said, after barely dodging Piccolo's first Makankasappo, that it would have killed him. Raditz would have died from the second Makankasappo regardless of Gohan's hit. This already points for Raditz power being inferior to 1500.
About Raditz mentioning Goku instead of himself about who's weaker than Gohan. You have to look at the context, Raditz is tormenting Goku there's no reason to bring himself into the conversation at all. The battle is exposed bare by the scouter numbers, all the statements regarding power levels are unnecessary.
This scene is all about narrative and emotional exposition, there's nothing more to pull out from it.
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