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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by PFM18 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:53 am

ekrolo2 wrote:
PFM18 wrote:No, those are actually power levels in the movie. I made it a little dramatic just for funsies but they are still the official PLs we got. We haven't gotten any in like decades so it is kind of a cool revelation.
Interesting, Cipher's little pamphlets for the movie said kid Broly was at 10,000, a mistake? I do know Ajay said his power skyrocketed in the incubation chamber when a ruckus outside was making him anxious so its entirely possible 920 is his birth BP and then it goes to 10,000 for the scene in-question.
That would make sense. When Paragus went to Vampa looking for his son he saw Broly with a bunch of dead spider monster things around him and that's when he scanned Broly's PL.

And 4200 is pretty much what you would expect from Paragus right?

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by BlazeDVH » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:55 pm

PFM18 wrote:
BlazeDVH wrote:
PFM18 wrote:Since it is evident that as a fandom we love our arbitrary quantifications of ki, it is great news that we have new officially stated power levels in the movie for the new characters!

Anyway, here they are:

Toddler Broly: 920
Paragus: 4200
Adult Base Broly: *too much for scouter* breaks the scouter

There you have it folks! We can add this to our list of official power levels that we have bestowed upon us!
Power level of 10k for broly is better i think, do you have source for these levels?
They were in the in-depth summary of the movie.

But no, Broly being at 10K was absolutely ridiculous. An infant being stronger than Saiyan arc Goku who fodderized Nappa, an elite Saiyan, is just nonsensical. 920 shows that he is extremely gifted but still to a believable extent.
Maybe this is ridiculous, and power level of 920 is still 460x higher than Baby Goku power level which can show how he is gifted. Paragus being stronger than Elite saiyan Nappa i agree with that.

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by GreatSaiyaman123 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:37 pm

p-hyvo wrote:freezer was already badly injuried there, Goku was already ssj in every istance you quoted, and that does'nt debunk what i've said
The amount of evidence you've posted to back yourself up is certainly amazing.
PFM18 wrote:Since it is evident that as a fandom we love our arbitrary quantifications of ki, it is great news that we have new officially stated power levels in the movie for the new characters!

Anyway, here they are:

Toddler Broly: 920
Paragus: 4200
Adult Base Broly: *too much for scouter* breaks the scouter

There you have it folks! We can add this to our list of official power levels that we have bestowed upon us!
Those don't fit my extremely accurate headcanon power gaps, therefore they are invalid.
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by PFM18 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:38 pm

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:
PFM18 wrote:Since it is evident that as a fandom we love our arbitrary quantifications of ki, it is great news that we have new officially stated power levels in the movie for the new characters!

Anyway, here they are:

Toddler Broly: 920
Paragus: 4200
Adult Base Broly: *too much for scouter* breaks the scouter

There you have it folks! We can add this to our list of official power levels that we have bestowed upon us!
Those don't fit my extremely accurate headcanon power gaps, therefore they are invalid.
What could this possibly not fit with? They fit really well, Paragus is a strong Saiyan by normal standards, slightly stronger than Nappa probably and Broly is an obscenely powerful baby.

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by GreatSaiyaman123 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:09 pm

PFM18 wrote:
GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:
PFM18 wrote:Since it is evident that as a fandom we love our arbitrary quantifications of ki, it is great news that we have new officially stated power levels in the movie for the new characters!

Anyway, here they are:

Toddler Broly: 920
Paragus: 4200
Adult Base Broly: *too much for scouter* breaks the scouter

There you have it folks! We can add this to our list of official power levels that we have bestowed upon us!
Those don't fit my extremely accurate headcanon power gaps, therefore they are invalid.
What could this possibly not fit with? They fit really well, Paragus is a strong Saiyan by normal standards, slightly stronger than Nappa probably and Broly is an obscenely powerful baby.
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by PFM18 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:28 pm

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:

Those don't fit my extremely accurate headcanon power gaps, therefore they are invalid.
What could this possibly not fit with? They fit really well, Paragus is a strong Saiyan by normal standards, slightly stronger than Nappa probably and Broly is an obscenely powerful baby.
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:37 pm

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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by Cipher » Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:38 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Interesting, Cipher's little pamphlets for the movie said kid Broly was at 10,000, a mistake? I do know Ajay said his power skyrocketed in the incubation chamber when a ruckus outside was making him anxious so its entirely possible 920 is his birth BP and then it goes to 10,000 for the scene in-question.
They could have just taken that number from the original movie without thinking too hard about it. It's important to stress that those Lotte cards were mostly promotional fluff with a few (at the time) unknown details about the general thrust of the film. But, like, they also pegged Raditz at 1600 for some reason, so I don't think they got an enormous amount of scrutiny from Shueisha.

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by BlazeDVH » Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:58 pm

I want to see your power levels for these characters:

Goku (Boo Saga)
Kaioshin
Puipui
Mecha Freeza
Kid Boo
Super Boo
Vegetto
Ssj2 Gohan (Vs Cell)
SP Cell
Dabura
Base Goku (Movie 5)

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by Kaboom » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:38 pm

BlazeDVH wrote:I want to see your power levels for these characters:
In units of millions:

Goku (Boo): 90
Kaioshin: 2,800
Pui-Pui: <1
Cyborg Freeza: 150
Pure Boo: 30,000
Evil Boo: 100,000
Vegetto: 10,000+ (SS: 500,000+)
SS2 Gohan (vs Cell): 7,000
Super Perfect Cell: 7,000
Dabra: 4,000
Goku (M5): 4
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by PFM18 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:12 pm

Kaboom wrote:
BlazeDVH wrote:I want to see your power levels for these characters:
In units of millions:

Goku (Boo): 90
Kaioshin: 2,800
Pui-Pui: <1
Cyborg Freeza: 150
Pure Boo: 30
Evil Boo: 100,000
Vegetto: 10,000+ (SS: 500,000+)
SS2 Gohan (vs Cell): 7,000
Super Perfect Cell: 7,000
Dabra: 4,000
Goku (M5): 4
So Mecha Freeza is stronger than Pure Boo?

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by GreatSaiyaman123 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:38 pm

BlazeDVH wrote:I want to see your power levels for these characters:

Goku (Boo Saga): 72,000
Kaioshin: 37,500
Puipui: 25,000
Mecha Freeza: 600
Kid Boo: 7,200,000
Super Boo: 120,000,000
Vegetto: 300,000,000
Ssj2 Gohan (Vs Cell): 1,200,000
SP Cell: 1,200,000
Dabura: 600,000
Base Goku (Movie 5): ???
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by Kaboom » Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:50 pm

PFM18 wrote:So Mecha Freeza is stronger than Pure Boo?
Whoops, no, just forgot a few zeroes for Boo there. He's at 30 billion, not 30 million.
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:03 pm

BlazeDVH wrote:I want to see your power levels for these characters:

Goku (Boo Saga)
Kaioshin
Puipui
Mecha Freeza
Kid Boo
Super Boo
Vegetto
Ssj2 Gohan (Vs Cell)
SP Cell
Dabura
Base Goku (Movie 5)

I don't remember anyone right now
Goku (Boo Saga) 37'500'000'000 (50'000'000'000 after the match with majin Vegeta)
Kaioshin 20'000'000'000
Puipui 24'000'000'000
Mecha Freeza 250'000'000 full power, 98'500'000 suppressed
Kid Boo 750'000'000'000'000 or something like that at full power, 1'900'000'000'000 vs ssj3 goku (in buu saga, I use x4 as ssj's multiplier. Is much more comfortable to use and it matches perfectly with the kiri thing)
Super Boo 480'000'000'000'000 or something like that
Vegetto 1'100'000'000'000'000 I think, I don't remember well
Ssj2 Gohan (Vs Cell) 221'000'000'000 (wounded +rage boost), 34'000'000'000 (wounded, no rageboost)
SP Cell 220'000'000'000
Dabura 222'000'000'000
Base Goku (Movie 5) Is it the cooler movie ? 240'000'000 then. Cooler said he can see How goku has beaten freezer only after seeing him fight only In his base form
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:32 pm

BlazeDVH wrote:I want to see your power levels for these characters:
Based on my last, semi-out-of-date list in units of millions:
Son Goku (Boo arc): 90 > SSj: 4,500 > SSj2: 9,000 > SSj3: 36,000
Kaioshin: 2,500 > Kibito-shin: 7,500
Puipui: 0.18
Mecha Freeza: 150
Pure Boo: 30,000
Super Boo: 120,000 > + Gotenks: 260,000 > + Gohan: 300,000
Vegetto: 18,000 > SSj: 900,000
Son Gohan (Cell Games): 72 > SSj: 3,600 > SSj2: 7,200
Perfect Cell: 3,200 > Full Power > 4,800 > power bloated: 6,400 > Super: 7,200
Dabra: 4,000
Son Goku (Movie 5): 4 > SSj: 200

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:27 am

I see that a lot of you guys tenses to low ball buu saga goku lek
remember fellas, anyone in gt after m2 >>>anyone in z (bog + rof excluded obv)

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:00 am

BlazeDVH wrote:I want to see your power levels for these characters:
In units of millions:

Goku (Boo): 75
Kaioshin: 2,000
Pui-Pui: <1
Cyborg Freeza: 150 (never shown)
Cyborg Freeza: 75 (base level)
Pure Boo: 30,000
Super Boo: 54,000 (Gotenks-Buu: 121,000, Gohan-Buu: 150,000)
Vegetto: 150,000 (SS: 7,500,000)
SS2 Gohan (vs Cell): 7,000
Super Perfect Cell: 5,000 to 7,000 (not sure)
Dabra: 5,000
Goku (M5): 4 (KK KHH: 126, SS: 210)
Cooler (M5): 180
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:25 am

p-hyvo wrote:
BlazeDVH wrote:I want to see your power levels for these characters:

Goku (Boo Saga)
Kaioshin
Puipui
Mecha Freeza
Kid Boo
Super Boo
Vegetto
Ssj2 Gohan (Vs Cell)
SP Cell
Dabura
Base Goku (Movie 5)

I don't remember anyone right now
Goku (Boo Saga) 37'500'000'000 (50'000'000'000 after the match with majin Vegeta)
Kaioshin 20'000'000'000
Puipui 24'000'000'000
Mecha Freeza 250'000'000 full power, 98'500'000 suppressed
Kid Boo 750'000'000'000'000 or something like that at full power, 1'900'000'000'000 vs ssj3 goku (in buu saga, I use x4 as ssj's multiplier. Is much more comfortable to use and it matches perfectly with the kiri thing), lowball 5'000'000'000'000
Super Boo 480'000'000'000'000 or something like that , lowball 3'160'000'000'000
Vegetto 1'100'000'000'000'000 I think, I don't remember well, lowball 7'800'000'000'000
Ssj2 Gohan (Vs Cell) 221'000'000'000 (wounded +rage boost), 34'000'000'000 (wounded, no rageboost)
SP Cell 220'000'000'000
Dabura 222'000'000'000
Base Goku (Movie 5) Is it the cooler movie ? 240'000'000 then. Cooler said he can see How goku has beaten freezer only after seeing him fight only In his base form
remember fellas, anyone in gt after m2 >>>anyone in z (bog + rof excluded obv)

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:28 am

p-hyvo wrote:
BlazeDVH wrote:I want to see your power levels for these characters:

Goku (Boo Saga)
Kaioshin
Puipui
Mecha Freeza
Kid Boo
Super Boo
Vegetto
Ssj2 Gohan (Vs Cell)
SP Cell
Dabura
Base Goku (Movie 5)

I don't remember anyone right now
Goku (Boo Saga) 37'500'000'000 (50'000'000'000 after the match with majin Vegeta)
Kaioshin 20'000'000'000
Puipui 24'000'000'000
Mecha Freeza 250'000'000 full power, 98'500'000 suppressed
Kid Boo 750'000'000'000'000 or something like that at full power, 1'900'000'000'000 vs ssj3 goku (in buu saga, I use x4 as ssj's multiplier. Is much more comfortable to use and it matches perfectly with the kiri thing)
Super Boo 480'000'000'000'000 or something like that
Vegetto 1'100'000'000'000'000 I think, I don't remember well
Ssj2 Gohan (Vs Cell) 221'000'000'000 (wounded +rage boost), 34'000'000'000 (wounded, no rageboost)
SP Cell 220'000'000'000
Dabura 222'000'000'000
Base Goku (Movie 5) Is it the cooler movie ? 240'000'000 then. Cooler said he can see How goku has beaten freezer only after seeing him fight only In his base form

For the buus and vegetto I have a low ball version too


Super buu 3'160'000'000'000
Kid buu 5'000'000'000'000, 1'900'000'000'000 vs goku
Vegetto 7'800'000'000'000
remember fellas, anyone in gt after m2 >>>anyone in z (bog + rof excluded obv)

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by BlazeDVH » Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:38 pm

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Shouldn't Base Goku in cooler movie be at least 120Millions?

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