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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Mon May 25, 2020 4:59 pm

Mad Swami wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 4:44 pm
Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 4:39 pm
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Mon May 25, 2020 4:21 pm


I agree Super Buu being 3X SSJ3 Goku. over 8x more is ridiculous if you ask me. Especially since being 2x stronger means a whole lot more then people realize
Agreed. Which is why I once scaled nearly all of GT without the classic "GoKu BEcAme 40p TimEs StroNger "

Koitsukai had his piece of info thrown into it as well. And you know? It worked out!

If base Goku can defeat someone many times stronger without getting SS tho, it's the plot demanding it. We can't accurately scale these instances. Just let it be like that. Other times tho, yes, a difference less than 2 times can change the course of the battle.

We shouldn't overthink some stuff is what I'm saying.
I posted my power levels earlier in the thread. What do you think about Buu saga Goku being like 64M and Super Buu being 75B
I don't think that numbers can truly allow for someone to fully grasp the difference in power among individuals. I mean, it's super specific power scaling. And I have mixed feelings for Z. As in "wasn't Goku scaled to still be at 3m in base?".

But since I believe that getting stronger is a thing in Z, I don't think that your numbers are wrong. But I am personally a fan of small numbers. As in Super Buu could be at below 20B. But it's just me. Your numbers are consistent with their scaling, so I think it's correct.
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by Mad Swami » Mon May 25, 2020 5:04 pm

Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 4:59 pm
Mad Swami wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 4:44 pm
Grand Marshal 1 wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 4:39 pm


Agreed. Which is why I once scaled nearly all of GT without the classic "GoKu BEcAme 40p TimEs StroNger "

Koitsukai had his piece of info thrown into it as well. And you know? It worked out!

If base Goku can defeat someone many times stronger without getting SS tho, it's the plot demanding it. We can't accurately scale these instances. Just let it be like that. Other times tho, yes, a difference less than 2 times can change the course of the battle.

We shouldn't overthink some stuff is what I'm saying.
I posted my power levels earlier in the thread. What do you think about Buu saga Goku being like 64M and Super Buu being 75B
I don't think that numbers can truly allow for someone to fully grasp the difference in power among individuals. I mean, it's super specific power scaling. And I have mixed feelings for Z. As in "wasn't Goku scaled to still be at 3m in base?".

But since I believe that getting stronger is a thing in Z, I don't think that your numbers are wrong. But I am personally a fan of small numbers. As in Super Buu could be at below 20B. But it's just me. Your numbers are consistent with their scaling, so I think it's correct.
I enjoy the lower numbers but events just contradict them I found. I originally tried to place Buu Goku at around 15-19M

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by Thani » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:46 pm

So, since I'm assuming this is the correct thread for this kind of question, how would guys compare Multiverse to Super? If we assume it would be a slaughterfest because of Super's admittedly wonky scaling, then think of it in a narrative perspective that could mix both settings.

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:07 am

Thani wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:46 pm
So, since I'm assuming this is the correct thread for this kind of question, how would guys compare Multiverse to Super? If we assume it would be a slaughterfest because of Super's admittedly wonky scaling, then think of it in a narrative perspective that could mix both settings.
I'll use Vegito to compare with random numbers to scale. Going by BoG SSG being a 10, and BoG Vegito a 7 (and Z Vegito being a 6 because little time went by), a well-trained Vegito like in MV could be easily a 9 or even a 10, actually maybe more if he trained for so long with a teenage Bra.
Forgive my lack of memory, it's been a Brafest for too long, but IIRC there was a shirtless Buuhan that absorbed Vegito in his universe before Vegito disappeared. That Buu rivaled Vegito or thought he could? cant' remember but I would put him close to SSG, like an 8.
SS2 Majin Bra has to be right up there with his father, at least an 8 or 9. After so many senzu beans and zenkais, she probably is a solid 10 by now or more.

They both die at the hands of Golden Freeza, however they would beat FF Freeza. I guess, Vegito and Bra can individually beat every U6 member except Hit. Although Vegito definitely has the brains to hack the time skip and with his SSG level of power he take Hit, who without that move isn't remarkable. Bra looks like she would let the blood go to her head and become a piece of cake for Hit. But she can take Kale and Caulifla together. They are both ashes against Kefla though.

For the manga, Vegito is more than enough for Hit, he soloes U6 and can fuck Black up, probably Bra can do the same. Vegito and Bra working together could definitely prevent Zamasu from healing Black and kill him immediately. They would do pretty great at the ToP, they could probably take Dyspo but Hit would be way out of their league now. Caulifla isn't a threat but SS Kale is.

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by Limitless123 » Wed Jun 17, 2020 11:44 pm

More of these because why not? I don't intend on adding any footnotes throughout the list, but these three are the cornerstones of understanding what these numbers mean:

1. Power Levels simply represents the amount of Ki (Life energy) in someone's body. This would mean "power gaps" have little relevance as how this Ki is channeled into power (Not to mention physical advantages, such as an Androids' resilience or Burta's speed), not to talk about a characters' experience in combat and their state of mind (Holding back, afraid, bloodlusted etc) in battle.

2. Taking the above into consideration, the numbers presented for the first half of the series are from a different, more appropriate scale, as the small numbers from part I makes scaling rather... thight, not to mention a real headache. This is due to Ki size not being as important here as it becomes in the later half of the series.

Also, multipliers are bullshit.

So, here's some random numbers.

Hunt for the Dragon Balls

The 21st Budokai

The Red Ribbon Army

Uranai Baba's Warriors

22nd Tenkaichi Budokai

Piccolo Daimao Arc

The 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai

Normal Scouter scaling for now onwards.

Saiyan Arc

Freeza Arc

Cell Arc

Boo Arc

The true sequel to Dragon Ball
In units of billions
Power Levels:
Main Series + GT
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