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Re: Dragonball Super: Ultra Instinct Cut + Z Kai: Ultimate International Edition!

Post by UltraPrimus22 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 3:12 pm

Hobby Bill wrote:
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This may be a bit soon to ask but do you intend on cutting out Berserk Kale? The manga omits that transformation and...

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The manga doesn't omit Kale's Berserk transformation. In both mediums, Vegeta (anime) and Cabba (manga) theorize that Kale's bulk-up state may have been related to a primate form of a Saiyan. Cutting out the berserker Super Saiyan form creates a domino effect of new plot holes (Why was Kale picked for the tournament in Ep. 93? How did the tournament arena and its populace become so wrecked starting from ep.100 to ep.101? Why are the Pride Troopers specifically targetting Goku and the U6 Saiyans in ep.101? Where does the green and bulk from Kafla's transformation come from?).

What I'm trying to say is that it's not "filler" to hack off with repercussions that require more workarounds, and the aforementioned plot points I mentioned occurred in Toyotaro's alternative take in a similar fashion.

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Post by Hobby Bill » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:07 pm

What I'm trying to say is that it's not "filler" to hack off with repercussions that require more workarounds, and the aforementioned plot points I mentioned occurred in Toyotaro's alternative take in a similar fashion.

I see, thanks for the correction.

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Post by saiyanprimalforce » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:22 am

Time for a mega nuclear thread bump. First off, new logo.

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Secondly, Episode 24 of Ultra Instinct Cut is up. https://youtu.be/IKulq52RIDM

Thirdly, Fused Yamatomo for Episode 99 has also released. https://youtu.be/ArhRVXVhsIE https://youtu.be/AreQxS6xYZ8

Fourthly, here's two new Faulconer Productions 2.0 Insert songs (along with "The God Prince" by The Enigma TNG for Vegeta's Sacrifice from the already released Episode 127)

https://youtu.be/hNdwIpTzOl0 Vegeta's Sacrifice

https://youtu.be/dt0os8SI_zo - "Father & Son Fusion" by Scott Morgan and The Enigma TNG - Gohan vs Boo

https://youtu.be/PlM2CWijCCo "Circle Of Heroes" by Scott Morgan - Vegeta's Respect

And finally, Episode 25 of Ultra Instinct Cut will be released next Saturday as well. So I'll save the more particular details and chatter about the projects until then. For now, I'll just say I'm doing a lot of "spring cleaning" related activities to make my production pipeline more efficient in regards to things coming quicker than they have.

So, until then, stay tuned...
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Post by saiyanprimalforce » Sun Jun 30, 2019 8:48 pm

Episode 25 of UIC and Episode 01 of Kikuchi Z are up!

Youtube nuked my channel, so no new videos at the moment. Originally I was working on Fused Yamamoto for Episode 100, but I think I've hit a snag with continuing on Boo Kai for the moment. Having gone through and spliced the audio tracks between every episode of Boo in Premiere, it's very apparent how poor the sound effects quality are on the center channels, to the point where not even music can mask the serious deficiencies. And noticing it has made me even more hyper aware of it in Kai and Super. So, as far as Kai, I think I'm just going to stick with 1-98 and work through each episode mining sound effects from Diccolo-420's rips to help build a library for the Boo portion. Though, it also occurred to me that maybe the Z Blu rays might be useful, but I have no idea if the quality of the 5.1 mix was even improved over the orignal orange bricks, or if there's a method for extracting isolated sound effects from those. If anyone has any particular knowledge with working with the Z Blu-rays, please let me know your opinion.

So in the meantime, I'll probably shift focus back on Super more, though I'm also still trying to finish setting up all the Kai episodes in Adobe. The first Kikuchi Z episode served as a test of sorts.for me for paying extra attention to recreating every background or reverb effect, and might be the best mix I've ever put out. Takes a lot more work, but I'm pretty satisfied with the result. Will take what I've learned forward with Super, and tinker with the previous episodes once all of Ultra Instinct Cut is finished.

Episode 26 of UIC should be along next Saturday.
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Post by saiyanprimalforce » Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:11 am

Episode 26 of Ultra Instinct Cut is up.

A couple of days late, but with good reason, as I just spent the weekend tolling away on this.

https://youtu.be/K1MHx2gnDPo

Episode 27 next week.
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Post by PremiumSalt » Mon Jul 08, 2019 7:14 pm

Out of curiosity, when you get to the TOP do you plan to use the Japanese version of Ultimate Battle?
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Post by Hobby Bill » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:33 am

Could you release the episodes in bulk?

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Post by saiyanprimalforce » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:32 am

I ended up working on a few Final Chapter Fused Yamatomo episodes last week in a surprising flurry. These are by no means finalized, given the work it's going to take to touch up the sound effects and whatnot as I mentioned before, but for musical enjoyment purposes, I think they do the job. So 117-122, 142 are up on MEGA as I type.

https://youtu.be/hXS4F4ZO0XU

Haven't touched the next episode of UIC, even though it's basically sitting there waiting there encoded and ready for a final check before upload. I'll get back to it...sometime...

Oh, and as far as the Japanese version of Ultimate Battle, I can't really say, as I haven't heard the dubbed song and have a particular opinion about it. If it feels like having your mouth washed out with soap, I may make that change.
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Post by eternalsage » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:30 pm

So, maybe I'm not paying attention, but the files on Mega are just images? And youTube only has trailers? Ultra Instinct Cut is what I am referring to, btw. Not sure how much is to much to talk about these kind of things on this board, as I am new, but would appreciate any pointers. Thanks.
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Post by saiyanprimalforce » Fri May 29, 2020 4:03 am

Sorry for the extra long delay, but Episodes 27-30 for Ultra Instinct Cut are up!

I've revised the release method as far as options, along with a new Youtube channel dedicated to highlighting and documenting the changes (that hopefully won't get killed off this time).

[28] Goku vs Goku Black https://youtu.be/k-p_lp6w2tE

[30] Zamasu kills Gowasu (No Filler) https://youtu.be/7uy_ZAUKMpI

[30] Meeting Zamasu and Black (No Filler) https://youtu.be/YNSB5XHBHZw

31 is almost ready. Part of the months of delay has been due to wanting to get all my Dragon Ball resources organized in a much more work-flow friendly manner. That mostly is a non-issue now, but also the brand new computer I'm editing on certainly doesn't hurt.

More Super real soon. I've completed the Kikuchi track for TFC 121, and have also started working on the Faulconer since the full episode suites are available for that. Finishing Black and ToP is my priority (because God forbid I'm not done with it by the time the eventual continuation is announced or airing).

I do have a small question I'd like to ask the community though. I'm using Handbrake for these last batch of Super encodes, and since I have a spare computer, I'd like to go ahead and run the complete batch of all 167 Kai episodes and get them encoded to be ahead of the game.

Problem is with my current settings, I've noticed that the picture is a little off, and not 1:1 in a visually lossless manner that'd I'd like. I've posted some screencaps of the differences and my Handbrake settings if anyone more knowledgeable about encoding anime really well would like to chime in with some advice for tweaking. Otherwise, I'll just keep using Super as a guinea pig until I figure it out Not like I won't be redoing all of them anyway, But I'd like to get the settings perfect before doing the massive Kai batch.

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Post by Hobby Bill » Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:23 pm

An aspect of this project that is pretty underrated is your rescores. Your version of the Uni 6 arc is worth it just for that. But also some key padding removal really streamlines the experience, so your Uni 6 is my go-to.

I do not like the FT arc, the story beats, dialogue, and the garbage ending really hurt what ultimately feels like a fanfiction. That being said, these last few eps of your project have helped to refine an inherently flawed arc. I'm curious how you'll deal with SSJ Rage and the ending.

What I'm most excited about is your version of the TOP. The theme of trust really comes full circle and there are some great moments in that arc. I have a few requests for that arc. 17 & Freeza's recruitments should not be skipped, if anything they should simply be cut down a bit. Not only are those fights visually incredible, but I believe that if you rescore them properly, they would be awesome. As for the TOP itself, I think it ultimately boils down to tightening it up. But please do not cut out 18 v Ribbriane or Piccolo & Gohan v The Namekians. Also, please use the Japanese version of the Ultra Instinct theme, or any version that's better than the official Funimation version.

So what's the gameplan moving forward? From your latest post, it sounds like UIC is the priority and your workflow is more refined. Could we expect a release schedule? Thank you.

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Post by Matches Malone » Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:45 am

Hobby Bill wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:23 pm
I do not like the FT arc, the story beats, dialogue, and the garbage ending really hurt what ultimately feels like a fanfiction. That being said, these last few eps of your project have helped to refine an inherently flawed arc. I'm curious how you'll deal with SSJ Rage and the ending.
The ending is the last thing you see from a story, so a bad one can really ruin an otherwise good story (not that the FT arc was good, but still). If I were to make my own edit of the arc, I'd end the fight with fused Zamasu right after his clash with Goku's Kamehameha then skip directly to everyone returning to the past within the time machine. Toriyama did intend on the arc ending with Goku and Vegeta just teaming up against him, which is what kind of happened with those beam struggles. I know that may seem anticlimactic, but my god is it better than...whatever it is that happens after.

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Post by saiyanprimalforce » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:15 pm

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Post by saiyanprimalforce » Sat Nov 07, 2020 2:00 pm

Episodes 31-40 of Ultra Instinct cut are completed! Ep 41-44 following shortly (for real--they're done, minus the encode/upload part)

https://twitter.com/ryankalford/status/ ... 79559?s=20

Sorry for the ridiculous wait with finishing Goku Black up, but I hope the sudden 10+ episode drops can help alleviate that somewhat.

There's a lot I could say about my choices in regards to the latter part of Black, but I'm so focused on TOP at this point it's hard to really gather my thoughts cohesively on it. But it's there and done and ready to be watched, for better or worse. I put A LOT more work into it than I initially anticipated (music replacements and reverb/SE touch ups). Plus, smoothing out some of scene edits is just a real pain at times.

As far as TOP goes, all the pre-tournament stuff was mostly scene/episode arrangement outside a few touch-up spots here and there. Currently two episodes into the actual tournament (the first 4 episodes condescended down, to give you an idea of the pacing).

I don't think I can answer all your questions yet, Hobby Bill, but I kept #17's fight intact as is (the alien filler went bye-bye though).

The Freeza and Universe 9 stuff....got the *snip*--because it's ultimately pointless filler with plot threads that go absolutely no where on top of creating universe inconsistences and plot holes. I even have a bit of a soft spot for Episode 94 as it was the first Super episode I actually watched during the Japanese broadcast (and that Golden Freeza transformation is amazing). I even tried keeping it in while I did the original rough drafting, but it became clear how pointless the entire thread is, so it got the Xeno *bye-bye* treatment from me.

I hope to keep wilting away at tournament episodes, but we'll just have to see how things play out.

On a final note, the ending for Zamasu is probably the most ballsy edit in all of UIC. No idea if people will like it or find it acceptable, but you know what?

Fuck Spirit Sword. It's garbage, along with Trunk's constant anime cliché verbal diarrhea.

If you feel the same, then odds are you'll like what I came up with. If not, well...sorry.
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Post by Hobby Bill » Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:20 pm

Well done on episode 35! Spirit Sword was crap, did you edit the aura for the edit to make sense or was the blu ray version simply different?

I still loathe the FT arc but I have to say that you made it waaaaaay more digestible. The altered music is icing on the cake (the Trunks v Zamasu finale...damn).

It's a damn shame the episode 94 Golden Freeza stuff can't make the cut. I was working on a fan edit of super eps to act as a bridge for the movies (omitting the TOP), and I managed to keep most of the best parts of 94. Now I a have a lot of flexibility because of the nature of the cut (I can splice in moments not originally intended in those locations). BUT, I believe there's a shot for it to work in this project. I can share the OVA over DMs, if you are curious.

Also just a heads up, it seems to me that the mp4/m4v encodes of the episodes are lower quality than your older MKVs. I can't speak for everyone, but I would rather have the bloated size than the lower fidelity.

I'm very excited for the TOP, it desperately needs to be cut down. Coupled with your excellent track replacements, this version of TOP will be a real treat.

Cheers! :thumbup:

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Post by saiyanprimalforce » Mon Jan 04, 2021 8:06 pm

New Year, with (somewhat) new updates!

Episodes 121+142 Fused Yamatomo Clips

121: https://youtu.be/Z1WrFHuInOA

142: https://youtu.be/6xmaxBpBOOQ

Z Kikuchi Episode 65 Clip

65: https://youtu.be/HJ73FCuFxUA

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I'm in the process of retooling the formats and whatnot for both projects. Spent a lot of time this weekend learning how to optimize h.264/h.265 settings. Got a lot on the "to-do" list, along with other Quality of Life improvements planned. So we'll see what the new year brings.

As for your comments, Hobby Bill, I'm really glad you enjoyed the final parts of the Trunks arc! Took a ton of work, but taking out Spirit Sword was certainly worth it. Would've been perfect too if not for the sudden change of color with the skies...but oh well, can't have everything. Still, it does speak to the power of what the right kind of edits and music placement paired together can achieve. If I had the skills to add a blue aura in, then I certainly would've fixed that sky, haha.

As far as high quality archives, I'll probably wait until I have finalized Ultra Instinct (up to TOP anyway, since the anime's continuation is most likely coming at some point), which will be h.265 and use Opus for the audio (192 bit rate is as good as FLAC without the extra size). Even with a high-end computer, h.265 still takes a a good bit of time investment to encode (but it's worth it for getting the same quality as h.264 for half the size)

Anyway, I'll try to get the next 3 Supers out into the world soon. Got to re-encode them again to conform to the new h.264 standard I'm using. But until then, I hope everyone will continue to *Doc Morgan voice* STAYYY TUNNNEEDDD...
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Post by EGonzo » Mon Jan 04, 2021 11:45 pm

Where can I catch the episodes? Youtube only has a few clips and going through the thread only shows a Mega with screenshots

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