MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 11/9/20!)

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Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 10/12/20!)

Post by Kid Buu » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:02 am

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I wish you would’ve covered Spopovich’s death, but it looks like that’s for next time. That was a moment that really weirded me out when I watched it as a kid.
I always thought Spopvich and Dabura could have been the same character. Would have helped build up Gohana fight with him more, instead of just killing Spopivich off so fast.
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Post by Mad Swami » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:20 am

Matches Malone wrote:
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I am also excited for the rock paper scissors arc you've built to come to an end lol
It was also played between Goku and Vegeta to decide who'd fight kid buu first.
Your right...the saga continues

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Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 10/12/20!)

Post by Mad Swami » Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:34 am

I would love a DBTV about Dragonball Evolution. The movie is horrible and is honestly my least favorite film. However, its existence is surprisingly important to DB as a franchise and I would be interested to see a video on it.

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Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 10/12/20!)

Post by UI Peter » Wed Oct 28, 2020 5:05 pm

Mad Swami wrote:
Wed Oct 28, 2020 3:34 am
I would love a DBTV about Dragonball Evolution. The movie is horrible and is honestly my least favorite film. However, its existence is surprisingly important to DB as a franchise and I would be interested to see a video on it.
Yeah. Without it, Battle of Gods wouldn't have happened

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Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 11/9/20!)

Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:07 am

Son or Clone? (The Power of Retcons) - Dragon Ball Dissection: The Majin Boo Arc Part 9!

This episode brings me somewhere I didn't expect to go. The last installment brought me questions in the comments asking whether or not Bobbidi was actually Bibbidi's son. I was not expecting that, and the rabbit hole I went down to explore that brought me to completely different places.
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Post by WittyUsername » Mon Nov 09, 2020 12:04 pm

Toriyama has made a number of retcons and retroactive additions to the story over the years, but out of all them, the idea that Babidi is a clone seems like the most pointless.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:09 am

Oh hey, one of my comments made it into a DBD video. I may as well just quit graduate school. Clearly, my life has peaked.

Seriously though, I really don't like Death Battle. You'd notice it more if you hang out in "who would win" communities as I do, but they're constantly spreading outright falsehoods with an inflated, unearned sense of authority. The only reason it's not more annoying is that "who would win" conversations are possibly the most trivial thing in the world.

I don't view it as odd that they'd cause misinformation to spread relatively far, though, even in the form of an offhand comment like the supposed Babidi mistranslation. Their videos are popular and well-edited, giving them an air of subconscious legitimacy, and you're not working with a very big sample size of people who believe in that misconception.
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Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 11/9/20!)

Post by Gaffer Tape » Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:16 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:09 am
Oh hey, one of my comments made it into a DBD video. I may as well just quit graduate school. Clearly, my life has peaked.
I was hoping you'd like that. ;-)
Seriously though, I really don't like Death Battle. You'd notice it more if you hang out in "who would win" communities as I do, but they're constantly spreading outright falsehoods with an inflated, unearned sense of authority. The only reason it's not more annoying is that "who would win" conversations are possibly the most trivial thing in the world.

I don't view it as odd that they'd cause misinformation to spread relatively far, though, even in the form of an offhand comment like the supposed Babidi mistranslation. Their videos are popular and well-edited, giving them an air of subconscious legitimacy, and you're not working with a very big sample size of people who believe in that misconception.
If this video has taught me anything, it's that I'm apparently the only person in the world who had barely thought of Death Battle prior to a month ago. I had to be reminded that they were those people who came to these forums years ago for info to make their Goku vs. Superman video. So I went from, "I've never heard of this before" to, "Oh, right. I forgot they existed." I don't exactly have my finger on the pulse of YouTube. =P
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Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 11/9/20!)

Post by WittyUsername » Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:05 pm

All the online hype in preparation for the Goku and Superman video was the first time I had heard of Death Battle. Back then, I was slightly annoyed by “who would win” debates, but I was interested enough to watch the Goku vs. Superman video for myself. I do remember being satisfied that they had Superman come out on top, if only because I was tired of all the “DBZ characters>>>>>all other fictional characters!” threads that would always pop up on forums.

Anyway, it’s funny to note that they made a second Goku vs. Superman video, after the introductions of Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, where Superman once again comes out on top, and that video was arguably even more controversial than the first. People really take their vs. debates seriously when it comes to Dragon Ball characters.

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Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 11/9/20!)

Post by RobertDaDon » Thu Nov 19, 2020 2:40 pm

WittyUsername wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:05 pm
All the online hype in preparation for the Goku and Superman video was the first time I had heard of Death Battle. Back then, I was slightly annoyed by “who would win” debates, but I was interested enough to watch the Goku vs. Superman video for myself. I do remember being satisfied that they had Superman come out on top, if only because I was tired of all the “DBZ characters>>>>>all other fictional characters!” threads that would always pop up on forums.

Anyway, it’s funny to note that they made a second Goku vs. Superman video, after the introductions of Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue, where Superman once again comes out on top, and that video was arguably even more controversial than the first. People really take their vs. debates seriously when it comes to Dragon Ball characters.
I think the controversy over their Superman vs Goku videos wasn't that Supes won (which even many SB fans expected) but rather it was the bad research and misinformation they used for the videos.

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Re: MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 11/9/20!)

Post by Kid Buu » Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:18 am

Maybe Baibidi is Bibidi's clone/son in a similar way to Ma Junior and Daimao?
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