MisteryOne wrote:I keep seeing this, and its just so nonsensical...Zamasu didn't want to destroy just Earthlings, he wanted to erradicate all the ningens in all the parallel worlds. Not to speak Goku Black was way stronger than Super Boo and destroyed entire races without problems. Only Trunks survived, and because they let him live.(I'm using the manga as the story, of course. Black is just a dumb incompetent in the anime).
Yeah, I know I'm killing the joke. But its just so stupid.
You do know he could just spam this over and over on every planet, right?
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
ekrolo2 wrote:You do know he could just spam this over and over on every planet, right?
Where was this stated?
Why does it need to be stated? Super Boo apparently can't even sense ki since Vegetto chastises him for it later on and yet he can fire off millions of separate ki attacks with which to kill almost everyone on Earth except the people on the Lookout, Tien, Chiaotzu, and Satan. Black should be able to pull this off fairly easily in both versions on every planet he's on.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
ekrolo2 wrote:You do know he could just spam this over and over on every planet, right?
Where was this stated?
Why does it need to be stated? Super Boo apparently can't even sense ki since Vegetto chastises him for it later on and yet he can fire off millions of separate ki attacks with which to kill almost everyone on Earth except the people on the Lookout, Tien, Chiaotzu, and Satan. Black should be able to pull this off fairly easily in both versions on every planet he's on.
What? Did you even read the manga? Buu was obviously able to sense Ki, or else he wouldn't have been able to pull off that attack. Even if for some reason you think an attack like that can be done without being able to sense Ki, later on Buu while fighting Gotenks senses Gohan's Ki from the Sacred World of Kais.
After that, absorbing Piccolo surely gave him very good ki sensing abilities. Vegetto was just making fun of him, and he probably wasn't focused in his battle with Vegetto.
悟 “Vincit qui se vincit”
What I consider canonical
Spoiler:
Dragon Ball Manga
Jaco: The Galactic Patrolman
Yo! Son Goku and friends return
Battle of Gods and Resurrection “F”
Dragon Ball Super Manga + Movies
Lore from Toriyama
Dragon Ball DAIMA
emperior wrote:What? Did you even read the manga? Buu was obviously able to sense Ki, or else he wouldn't have been able to pull off that attack. Even if for some reason you think an attack like that can be done without being able to sense Ki, later on Buu while fighting Gotenks senses Gohan's Ki from the Sacred World of Kais.
After that, absorbing Piccolo surely gave him very good ki sensing abilities. Vegetto was just making fun of him, and he probably wasn't focused in his battle with Vegetto.
I did read the manga and Super Boo doesn't register Gohan until he's basically there already and you don't need to sense chi to here someone who's almost at your location flying there with super speed. Later on, as Boohan he tries to use smoke to throw off Vegetto and he gets his shit kicked in and Vegetto has to explain why that's a stupid idea since feeling chi makes seeing with your regular senses pointless.
So, either Boo can't sense chi or Toriyama messed up and forgot he can it before fixing it later on. He already forgot how many wishes Dende's Shenron can use in the arc so this wouldn't surprise me.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
emperior wrote:What? Did you even read the manga? Buu was obviously able to sense Ki, or else he wouldn't have been able to pull off that attack. Even if for some reason you think an attack like that can be done without being able to sense Ki, later on Buu while fighting Gotenks senses Gohan's Ki from the Sacred World of Kais.
After that, absorbing Piccolo surely gave him very good ki sensing abilities. Vegetto was just making fun of him, and he probably wasn't focused in his battle with Vegetto.
I did read the manga and Super Boo doesn't register Gohan until he's basically there already and you don't need to sense chi to here someone who's almost at your location flying there with super speed. .
Didn't Buu explain to Gohan that he could sense Gohan the entire time?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.