Toyble DBAF [June 9, 2012] Vol 4 HD release complete

[hulkty]

Is there a why I can see it without having to download the zip file stuff?
Can I just get a link the the actual pages?...

[JulieYBM]

Wow, five years for Vegeta? I wonder if that'll have an adverse affect on him?

Man, I can't wait for the next volume. Did Toyble ever say when it would come?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Vegeta does seem older after those five years, eh? Humanoid Porunga looks awesome, I would love to see a humanoid Ultimate Shen Long too. I can't wait for volume 5. I expect Goku's return in volume 6, and the finale with Xicor in volume 7.

[desirecampbell]

Is there a way I can see it without having to download the zip file stuff?
Can I just get a link the the actual pages?...

The zip file is 20 MB. It's not a large file.

Man, I can't wait for the next volume. Did Toyble ever say when it would come?

I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Raykugen]

sorry but it's unbelievable, even, 4 years training alone!? any person would turn crazy with something like that, alone 4 years in a white background, that's very hard

[Saiga]

sorry but it's unbelievable, even, 4 years training alone!? any person would turn crazy with something like that, alone 4 years in a white background, that's very hard

Vegeta's probably not all there to begin with.

[TRL]

Nice read.
This time training room by dr. Brief might not be as taxing as the rosat, maybe it simulates some social interaction or Vegeta gets injected with endorphines every day to keep him "happy".

Too bad this manga doesn't have a regular releasing schedule like DBM, the story is really picking up.

And that bit about kame sennin dieing is still the most beautiful piece of dragonball fan manga I've ever come across. So Toyble is definitely doing some stuff right! Although I still completely loathe the concept of xicor as a villain. Such a simplistic fanboy concept.

[Saiga]

I'm enjoying the story so far (I liked this chapter for the non-action scenes) but it started out pretty bad for me. Gohan and Vegeta just pulling out SS4 out of nowhere was just bad, and Xicor is way too strong. Apart from that, it's pretty good.

[JulieYBM]

Vegeta's Super Saiyan 4 isn't exactly out of nowhere when you consider that he used it in the series. I don't think it was ever explicitly stated he couldn't use it without Bruits Waves, either.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Vegeta's Super Saiyan 4 isn't exactly out of nowhere when you consider that he used it in the series. I don't think it was ever explicitly stated he couldn't use it without Bruits Waves, either.

Yes it was. After his transformation wore off, Vegeta was yelling at Bluma to fix her machine so that he could do it again. Goku was surprised that Vegeta couldn't do it on his own, which ticked the prince off. Plus, he didn't keep his tail afterward.

[Rostir]

Isn't it possible that he learned how to transform without the machine at some point after?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Possible I suppose, but not the way Toyble handles it IMO.

Super Saiyan 4 is a hybrid form which and draws from the Oozaru, which requires a tail to transform into. I would assume the only reason Vegeta can't go SS4 again in GT is because unlike Goku, he doesn't keep his tail after his first transformation (which doesn't exactly make sense to me). Since Vegeta still doesn't have a tail in Toyble's story until after he uses SS4, it seems like a pretty big plothole to me.

[Saiga]

Sure, they could have explained that Vegeta trained to use the form without a tail (which makes no sense) or have his tail regrown permanently by one of Bulma's inventions (and done the same with Gohan) but there is no explanation and the whole thing is glossed over as "WHOAAA, They're Super Saiyan 4s! EXTREEEEEEME!"

At least that's how it feels.

[Rostir]

I'm confused, I don't remember correctly. Goku always had a tail but it had to be pulled out? Is that the same case for Vegeta?

[Saiga]

I'm confused, I don't remember correctly. Goku always had a tail but it had to be pulled out? Is that the same case for Vegeta?

Goku's tail started growing back because he was turned back into a kid.

[Rostir]

I'm confused, I don't remember correctly. Goku always had a tail but it had to be pulled out? Is that the same case for Vegeta?

Goku's tail started growing back because he was turned back into a kid.

Mind blown, thanks.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I'm confused, I don't remember correctly. Goku always had a tail but it had to be pulled out? Is that the same case for Vegeta?

Goku's tail started growing back because he was turned back into a kid.

It wasn't because of this. Ru Kaioshin forcibly drew it out of his body.

[Saiga]

It wasn't because of this. Ru Kaioshin forcibly drew it out of his body.

They did that to speed it up. It had started growing back, which is why they noticed it and thought of drawing it out.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

They did that to speed it up. It had started growing back, which is why they noticed it and thought of drawing it out.

No, the Elder Kaioshin planned on having it grow back before it ever actually started to on its own. It wasn't until Goku started the grinding exercise that his ass started to itch from the growing tail-nub-thing, and then they sped up the process by using the pliers.

[Saiga]

No, the Elder Kaioshin planned on having it grow back before it ever actually started to on its own. It wasn't until Goku started the grinding exercise that his ass started to itch from the growing tail-nub-thing, and then they sped up the process by using the pliers.

...why did the grinding exercises cause his tail to start growing back in the first place?