Toyble DBAF [June 9, 2012] Vol 4 HD release complete

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Re: Toyble DBAF [June 9, 2012] Vol 4 HD release complete

Post by hulkty » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:30 pm

Is there a why I can see it without having to download the zip file stuff?
Can I just get a link the the actual pages?...

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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:41 pm

Wow, five years for Vegeta? I wonder if that'll have an adverse affect on him?

Man, I can't wait for the next volume. Did Toyble ever say when it would come?
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:53 pm

Vegeta does seem older after those five years, eh? Humanoid Porunga looks awesome, I would love to see a humanoid Ultimate Shen Long too. I can't wait for volume 5. I expect Goku's return in volume 6, and the finale with Xicor in volume 7.
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Re: Toyble DBAF [June 9, 2012] Vol 4 HD release complete

Post by desirecampbell » Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:40 pm

hulkty wrote:Is there a way I can see it without having to download the zip file stuff?
Can I just get a link the the actual pages?...
The zip file is 20 MB. It's not a large file.
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Post by Raykugen » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:44 am

sorry but it's unbelievable, even, 4 years training alone!? any person would turn crazy with something like that, alone 4 years in a white background, that's very hard
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Post by Saiga » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:45 am

Raykugen wrote:sorry but it's unbelievable, even, 4 years training alone!? any person would turn crazy with something like that, alone 4 years in a white background, that's very hard
Vegeta's probably not all there to begin with. :lol:
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Post by TRL » Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:28 pm

Nice read.
This time training room by dr. Brief might not be as taxing as the rosat, maybe it simulates some social interaction or Vegeta gets injected with endorphines every day to keep him "happy".

Too bad this manga doesn't have a regular releasing schedule like DBM, the story is really picking up.

And that bit about kame sennin dieing is still the most beautiful piece of dragonball fan manga I've ever come across. So Toyble is definitely doing some stuff right! Although I still completely loathe the concept of xicor as a villain. Such a simplistic fanboy concept.

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Post by Saiga » Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:18 pm

I'm enjoying the story so far (I liked this chapter for the non-action scenes) but it started out pretty bad for me. Gohan and Vegeta just pulling out SS4 out of nowhere was just bad, and Xicor is way too strong. Apart from that, it's pretty good.
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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:17 pm

Vegeta's Super Saiyan 4 isn't exactly out of nowhere when you consider that he used it in the series. I don't think it was ever explicitly stated he couldn't use it without Bruits Waves, either.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:59 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Vegeta's Super Saiyan 4 isn't exactly out of nowhere when you consider that he used it in the series. I don't think it was ever explicitly stated he couldn't use it without Bruits Waves, either.
Yes it was. After his transformation wore off, Vegeta was yelling at Bluma to fix her machine so that he could do it again. Goku was surprised that Vegeta couldn't do it on his own, which ticked the prince off. Plus, he didn't keep his tail afterward.
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Post by Rostir » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:23 pm

Isn't it possible that he learned how to transform without the machine at some point after?
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:40 pm

Possible I suppose, but not the way Toyble handles it IMO.

Super Saiyan 4 is a hybrid form which and draws from the Oozaru, which requires a tail to transform into. I would assume the only reason Vegeta can't go SS4 again in GT is because unlike Goku, he doesn't keep his tail after his first transformation (which doesn't exactly make sense to me). Since Vegeta still doesn't have a tail in Toyble's story until after he uses SS4, it seems like a pretty big plothole to me.
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Post by Saiga » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:48 pm

Sure, they could have explained that Vegeta trained to use the form without a tail (which makes no sense) or have his tail regrown permanently by one of Bulma's inventions (and done the same with Gohan) but there is no explanation and the whole thing is glossed over as "WHOAAA, They're Super Saiyan 4s! EXTREEEEEEME!"

At least that's how it feels.
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Post by Rostir » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:57 pm

I'm confused, I don't remember correctly. Goku always had a tail but it had to be pulled out? Is that the same case for Vegeta?
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Post by Saiga » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:59 pm

Rostir wrote:I'm confused, I don't remember correctly. Goku always had a tail but it had to be pulled out? Is that the same case for Vegeta?
Goku's tail started growing back because he was turned back into a kid.
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Re: Toyble DBAF [June 9, 2012] Vol 4 HD release complete

Post by Rostir » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:07 am

Saiga wrote:
Rostir wrote:I'm confused, I don't remember correctly. Goku always had a tail but it had to be pulled out? Is that the same case for Vegeta?
Goku's tail started growing back because he was turned back into a kid.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:36 am

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Rostir wrote:I'm confused, I don't remember correctly. Goku always had a tail but it had to be pulled out? Is that the same case for Vegeta?
Goku's tail started growing back because he was turned back into a kid.
It wasn't because of this. Ru Kaioshin forcibly drew it out of his body.
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Post by Saiga » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:45 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote: It wasn't because of this. Ru Kaioshin forcibly drew it out of his body.
They did that to speed it up. It had started growing back, which is why they noticed it and thought of drawing it out.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:59 am

Saiga wrote:They did that to speed it up. It had started growing back, which is why they noticed it and thought of drawing it out.
No, the Elder Kaioshin planned on having it grow back before it ever actually started to on its own. It wasn't until Goku started the grinding exercise that his ass started to itch from the growing tail-nub-thing, and then they sped up the process by using the pliers.
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Post by Saiga » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:22 am

TheDevilsCorpse wrote: No, the Elder Kaioshin planned on having it grow back before it ever actually started to on its own. It wasn't until Goku started the grinding exercise that his ass started to itch from the growing tail-nub-thing, and then they sped up the process by using the pliers.
...why did the grinding exercises cause his tail to start growing back in the first place?
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