Oh yes, it was fun! Especially DNA saying I'm a fucker.I have to respect Salagir for being calm and willing to jump in on the debates. There's been some really mean hateful stuff posted in this topic towards him over the months.
I hope you're not the same DNA who make Portuguese translation, that would be... awkward.
Don't worry, I can take the shit. After all, I'm saying bad things all the time against Toei, but without the anime, I wouldn't have heard of DB in my life and it still had great moments. Sometimes we just like to be bastards with authors. After all, they don't listen...
I prefer not to answer that. I already lost too much time with Nappa's debate ;p PLs and multipliers are a sure thing to not agree on anythingSalagir, what multipliers do you have for Oozaru & Super Saiyan forms?
RandomGuy96 made a good point explaining why clearly Cold isn't stronger than Freeza.About Cold being not above freeza, why powering him up, and why didn't he beat the crap of trunks then ?
But everything can be bent a little (by me) and change that. I changed that because I had my own view on the "frost demons".
* When people talk about Freeza's Ki, as most of them never saw him, we don't know who's ki they are actually talking about.
* Number 1 in the universe was used by Vegeta before. By Barta also for speed, although even Ginyu might be faster than him. Also, isn't Coola number 1 and not his brother then ? (anime only) And it's also Freeza's revenge. His father isn't going to cut him every 2 lines saying "Nope, I am the strongest". To conclude, as a father preparing his son to take his place, it's also possible that he doesn't bother him with that.
* Transforming takes time. Cold saw that Trunks doesn't lose time. If Cold transforms, he'll be cut in two. That's why he tried to trick him instead of fighting on the spot. When the trick didn't work, Cold didn't have time to transform.
* Demons can't control themselves when powering up too much, that's why they go in reduced form (said by freeza). I decided that if Cold transforms, he destroys a little too much around him. That's why he would think twice before doing that. You will see that told in the fanfic "One way", first chapter released a few hours ago. In DBM Cold now controls himself like his sons. This is a personal add-on, but it goes by DBZ logic.
To conclude : I agree that Toriyama may have intended for Cold to be less strong than his son and not having any transformation.
I decided to twist that a little to make the "frost demons" my own (yes, Cold gave birth to his sons), but keeping all that according to what we see in the manga.
Yeah, that's actually not very nice. And you may have guessed that I don't wear the "2" on purpose.Sagir2(Shit can't spell his name for crap lol)
If you can't write, copy-paste. That's what I do, TheGmGoken. It shows a minimum of civility.
Of course. given more time to think before, given years of DBM publishing online, given 700 pages of experiments, I can say that if I did DBM now from the beginning, it would be very different.As you said he could have done a better job in setting up the universes.
When we began, more than half of the universes were written in stone. Even the next ones had to be decided very quickly. Notice how some universes are all in the first part of the round 1 and some others only the the second part ? I tried to give me more time to decide.
There are many things I regret and many things I wanted to change right after publication (comments can help that) or even months after.
It's sure easier to look back at some work and say "I'd done better".
Cool, new original characters of saiyans ! That would have given me true support, and differentiating me from the common fanboy, lolWhy is it just Vegeta and GOku who are the strong Saiyans?
That's not very nice for the only young character in the whole Buu Saga who actually gives a shit on getting stronger.Wait...why the hell is Videl so strong? It's fucking Videl!? Even if she HAD met the Z fighters I'm sure she would't become all of that. She would be more like Chi Chi( without being the bitch part IMO. How the hell can she manage the Kaioken.
it's obvious to me that if Videl had the same life story as Krillin, she would be as strong as him. Why not?
Or maybe it's just plain misogyny as well, just like for SSJ Pan.
Sadly all the power level you cite come from, I guess, other courses, the same other sources that put Popo at ~1000.Yajirobe has enormous potential; he did basically nothing but sit around and eat and yet he still had a power level in the hundreds,(...)Yet he still gets a power level of around 1,000 by doing nothing. What could he have done had he ACTUALLY trained...?
It's quite clear Yajirobe never went far. He could be Roshi's level for all I know. His only fights were against Goku being nice to him and the dragon Piccolo made, who was quite weak. Yajirobe clearly doesn't want to fight or to learn to fight. Making him strong would be off-character.
For the same reason Gohan didn't participate to DBM 's tournament.
And for the same reason I didn't do a universe with "good freeza" (actual suggestion by mail).