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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Venus » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:20 am

English is not even my first or second language and I facepalm everytime I see these weird translations.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by FoolsGil » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:26 am

It's not the worst line, but imho if I was the english translator, I would have asked permission to change it to 'Shit!'
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Post by goku the krump dancer » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:59 am

Is it that big of a deal?
"Drats", "Fuck", "Dammit", "Crap"... in this context all serve the same purpose, so what difference does it make.
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:22 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:59 am
Is it that big of a deal?
"Drats", "Fuck", "Dammit", "Crap"... in this context all serve the same purpose, so what difference does it make.
Because Drats just sounds really silly.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:23 pm

The reason the translations are so bad is because, despite everyone saying they're bad, no one actually volunteers to improve them

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Post by Fionordequester » Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:44 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
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The reason the translations are so bad is because, despite everyone saying they're bad, no one actually volunteers to improve them
I wish it were that simple...

No, the reason they're so bad is because Salagir insists on his own way, rather than fully trusting the translators:

http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-1257.html
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Meister Kleister wrote:FYI, based on some of the other translations, what Vegetto said in the last panel might better be translated to something like: "Even my little Bra can't reach a tenth of my level. No one in any universe can."
Salagir wrote:This error it my full choice (it may not be a good one, but it's on purpose and not the fault of the english translators ^^).

Here is the discussion that happened between me and my proodreaders:
(Context: He changes "can" to "is" and I say no.)
npberryhill:
This sentence is incomplete. No one in any universe can... can what? That's why I changed it to "is" previously. But I think it can be fixed by changing the previous sentence slightly so it's a direct response the way I think you want. "Even my little Bra can't come close to a tenth of my level." That would make the second sentence work fine I think.
Salagir:
The french version contains the same "error".
The 2 sentences don't fit perfectly with each others: Yes. It's talk. He doesn't prepare his text in advance... It doesn't need to be all calculated and perfectly fitting.
He modify his "argumentation" over time. First, he says she is not strong enough. Then, he adds that well, no one can be that strong enough anyway.
npberryhill:
Okay, cool. I agree we should strive to be as close to the original as possible. Well, if I can, let me suggest we add one word to the end of the second sentence then? "No one in any universe can be." It's small, I don't think it changes meaning, only fixes.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Jackalope89 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:57 pm

So, out of sheer pettiness he makes the translators keep it so, well, that?

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Post by Fionordequester » Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:01 pm

Jackalope89 wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 8:57 pm
So, out of sheer pettiness he makes the translators keep it so, well, that?

:problem:
That's what I got out if that.

Still, he WAS nice enough to take the blame off the translators themselves, so I wouldn't think TOO badly of him. Just... perhaps he's got one too many things in common with Zen Buu.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:30 pm

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Lukmendes » Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:24 am

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"Ah yes, all of those insecurities we never talked about or hinted at, those insecurities".
Just like Majin Vegeta then
Vegeta's entire motivation as majin is insecurity about Goku being better than him, basicaly he just threw a very deadly tantrun, so that made sense with his character, what didn't make sense is his relationship with Bulma and him caring enough about her to have a change of heart, but at least we can assume something happened off screen, specialy since, while we see nothing of how he treats Bulma, he does treat Trunks just fine and is proud of him, so there's some merit to his change of heart since Trunks was part of it too, meanwhile, what Bra says, or other characters say about her just contradicts what was shown about her character.

So basicaly, while Majin Vegeta had very clear issues, it still made some sense with what we were shown, Bra is just a version of that which makes no sense since it contradicts what was shown.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Regarder » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:29 am

Fionordequester wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:44 pm
He modify his "argumentation" over time. First, he says she is not strong enough. Then, he adds that well, no one can be that strong enough anyway.
Someone needs to tell him that English simply doesn't work this way. Even if you wanted to "modify your argumentation" in a casual way, no fluent English speaker would end up with something like what Vegetto says there. If he's really doing it to be a troll, then why does he even bother sticking to a schedule and hiring skilled artists for the main story? My guess is that he just has a stubborn personality when criticized.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Fionordequester » Tue Jul 09, 2019 6:18 am

Regarder wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:29 am
If he's really doing it to be a troll, then why does he even bother sticking to a schedule and hiring skilled artists for the main story? My guess is that he just has a stubborn personality when criticized.
Seems likely, unfortunately. You can see how careful npberryhill was in saying "oh yeah, of course! Accuracy! Gotta have that accuracy!".
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:26 pm

goku the krump dancer wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 10:59 am
Is it that big of a deal?
"Drats", "Fuck", "Dammit", "Crap"... in this context all serve the same purpose, so what difference does it make.
My issue is that the word is "drat," not "drats." No problem with the word choice here, just the consistently sloppy spelling.
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Post by HeroR » Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:23 pm

Regarder wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:29 am
Fionordequester wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2019 4:44 pm
He modify his "argumentation" over time. First, he says she is not strong enough. Then, he adds that well, no one can be that strong enough anyway.
Someone needs to tell him that English simply doesn't work this way. Even if you wanted to "modify your argumentation" in a casual way, no fluent English speaker would end up with something like what Vegetto says there. If he's really doing it to be a troll, then why does he even bother sticking to a schedule and hiring skilled artists for the main story? My guess is that he just has a stubborn personality when criticized.
He really can’t take criticism. Like pointing out all the issues with Bra and how she’s a Sue will gets you called a sexist by him and defend his character by talking about how everyone loved Vegeta when he was evil and he’s no different than Bra. Completely ignoring why this comparison doesn’t work even when people spells out the issue.

That’s and he’s a hypocrite who will dog the series, especially GT and Super, for doing something, and he then he turns around and does the same thing and claimed since his work is ‘fanfiction’, he’s for some reason immune from such criticism.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:35 pm

Salagir was obviously being sarcastic when he said "I'm a troll"

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Post by Fionordequester » Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:20 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:35 pm
Salagir was obviously being sarcastic when he said "I'm a troll"
Was he? I mean, that's about the best reason we have as to why a person would veto his own translators. Unless, of course, he thinks he knows English better than the people he hired?
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Post by coola » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:52 pm

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Is that supposed to be some sort of crystalized zanzoken? Now thats something new...
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Post by Saiga » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:22 pm

I think it's something she used against Ginyu-Cold.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Lukmendes » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:19 pm

coola wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:52 pm
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Is that supposed to be some sort of crystalized zanzoken? Now thats something new...
That's a move she used against Ginyu-Cold, as Saiga pointed out above:

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And it's not an after image, it's basicaly a type of clone that uses the exploding clones Gotenks can make as a basis, as Vegetto explained:

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Weird she used it and none of the clone's remains are in Gohan's arm like they were in Ginyu-Cold's though, maybe next page will correct this.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Fionordequester » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:23 pm

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I dunno, Bra. If he's bleeding from the mouth already, he's kind of done, regardless.

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Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
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