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And so after nearly a year, that’s it? Wow. Just wow.
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Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
AgreedJulieYBM wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:12 pm Daughters don't often show it when their abusive fathers abuse them. They act out in other ways, which could be a combination of doing whatever they can to please their abuser or loudly proclaiming they are their own person while being shitty themselves. The paneling and dialogue here is atrocious but that's not unique to fan projects.
Majin Bra getting torn down by her non-combat junkie self from a different universe is a fitting end for her.
Vegeta wasn't trying to lose the majin curse he was just ignoring Babidi.TheGodfather93 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:38 pm Man, I hope she lost the M because Babidi died, not because she got talk no jutsu'd and somehow found the mental fortitude to snap out of mind control.
If Majin Vegeta couldn't lose the M despite going against Babidi's wishes, there's no reason Bra should be able to.
Edit: Just saw a comment from Salagir saying Babidi's still alive and that she broke out of it on her own.
Well, fair enough if he want to go that route with his story, but given all the atrocities she's committed without remorse, I find it incredibly hard to believe that a tantrum from an alternate version of herself would bring her back from the Dark Side.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
The idea is fine, the execution is horrible. Like people mocked Naruto for talking the monster to death, but this is worst than anything in Naruto. Not helping that since Bra is such an unlikable asshole even before she went Majin, you rather see her cut in half than redeemed. I mean, at least Naruto for the most part beat the shit out of the person before he talks them to death.JulieYBM wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:12 pm Daughters don't often show it when their abusive fathers abuse them. They act out in other ways, which could be a combination of doing whatever they can to please their abuser or loudly proclaiming they are their own person while being shitty themselves. The paneling and dialogue here is atrocious but that's not unique to fan projects.
Majin Bra getting torn down by her non-combat junkie self from a different universe is a fitting end for her.
We got pages and pages of Bra ruthlessly killing and beating up her friends and family, but a panel or two showing regret about killing her brother was too long.Fionordequester wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:34 pm ...You know, Salagir said that he originally had more panels of Bra wavering a bit after cutting Gohan in half. He then cut it out because he thought it went on too long.
...Now that I see the ending? He REEEEEALLY should have kept those in! Because now it just seems like her being called "passive" was what turned her back, not the horror of killing her loved ones.
Kanassa wrote:Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
It's easy for him to say that now, after seeing everyone's reaction...Fionordequester wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:34 pm ...You know, Salagir said that he originally had more panels of Bra wavering a bit after cutting Gohan in half.
It's just as weird in the original French
Yeah, I'm not sure I buy that to be honest. We've had page after page after page of over-the-top violence and excessive gore that did little to further the story, and many people were making their dissatisfaction known in the comments. Surely, given that kind of mixed reaction, it would've made sense to take a brief break from the action and show SOME form of character development. It also would've made the eventual resolution to the Majin Bra storyline a lot less jarring.Fionordequester wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 2:34 pm ...You know, Salagir said that he originally had more panels of Bra wavering a bit after cutting Gohan in half. He then cut it out because he thought it went on too long.
Somebody, whether a U9 human or U2 Mary Sue, or I'k'l finally being born and jumping in, somebody should have saved Gohan. And the moment that hero falls after putting up a reasonably good fight, and they fall fatally, or non fatally, and Bra is now gloating AF, THEN U18 Bra does her speech. That is how it should have been done.
Does it help if he said this on Page 1696/1745? 49 pages ago? That was February 12th, for reference.TheGodfather93 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:26 pm Yeah, I'm not sure I buy that to be honest. We've had page after page after page of over-the-top violence and excessive gore that did little to further the story, and many people were making their dissatisfaction known in the comments. Surely, given that kind of mixed reaction, it would've made sense to take a brief break from the action and show SOME form of character development. It also would've made the eventual resolution to the Majin Bra storyline a lot less jarring.
It sounds more like Salagir's trying to cover his ass, which I can't really blame him for. Having your work criticised so harshly like that is never easy, and I do feel a bit sorry for him in that regard. However, it also highlights why it's important to take feedback on board (even if you don't agree with all of it), or have someone to bounce ideas off of.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.