KaiserNeko wrote:We honestly don't like the special. It's mostly harmless, sure, but that'd kind of part of its problem. There's just so little to it, Goku Jr. is boring, the villains are forgettable, and I have nothing truly positive to say about it.
Also, it's more GT, and frankly? GT, in our eyes, is a mistake from top to bottom. So yeah, that is honestly being held against it.
That's sad to hear but I personally think GT has some strong points (mainly the Baby Saga and SSJ4) but it was a let down overall
I wonder what you guys are going to do with Gohan once he reaches the Cell Games...will his voice actor change in order to get a more menacing and fiercer Gohan? Or will he just sound more serious and intimidating?
Well, guess I have to wait then.
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Kiwimelon wrote:I wonder what you guys are going to do with Gohan once he reaches the Cell Games...will his voice actor change in order to get a more menacing and fiercer Gohan? Or will he just sound more serious and intimidating?
Well, guess I have to wait then.
Masako X will be playing Gohan til the end of the Cell Games. Afterwards the guy who plays Cloud in FF7 Abridged will play Adult Gohan. Everything else we'll just have to wait and see.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
Kiwimelon wrote:I wonder what you guys are going to do with Gohan once he reaches the Cell Games...will his voice actor change in order to get a more menacing and fiercer Gohan? Or will he just sound more serious and intimidating?
Well, guess I have to wait then.
Masako X will be playing Gohan til the end of the Cell Games. Afterwards the guy who plays Cloud in FF7 Abridged will play Adult Gohan. Everything else we'll just have to wait and see.
Tis' a shame. I really like Masako X as Goku and Gohan. Wonder who will voice Goten.
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KaiserNeko wrote:We honestly don't like the special. It's mostly harmless, sure, but that'd kind of part of its problem. There's just so little to it, Goku Jr. is boring, the villains are forgettable, and I have nothing truly positive to say about it.
Also, it's more GT, and frankly? GT, in our eyes, is a mistake from top to bottom. So yeah, that is honestly being held against it.
It did have Chewbacca in it, so that's something at least.
Also, Having seen the 23rd spot just recently, i feel the GT comparison wasn't really fair considering Plan to Eradicate came first
The one-off parts of the original "Plan to Eradicate" are what I like about it:
-Gokû driving a submarine
-Kamesennin offering Vegeta dirty magazines only to have Vegeta irritatedly chuck them at Kamesennin's head.
-the silly poses everyone's in when Gokû teleports them back to Earth
The idea of something that shuts down everyone's ability to manipulate ki is interesting, but something that can't be fully explored in a choose-your-own-adventure game compared to an actual story arc. You want something that'll level the playing field, shutting off the ki control and making them rely on their basic fighting skills will do it.
KaiserNeko wrote:We honestly don't like the special. It's mostly harmless, sure, but that'd kind of part of its problem. There's just so little to it, Goku Jr. is boring, the villains are forgettable, and I have nothing truly positive to say about it.
Also, it's more GT, and frankly? GT, in our eyes, is a mistake from top to bottom. So yeah, that is honestly being held against it.
How bout the redub of Movie 2? Correct me if I'm wrong but you guys dubbed that way back and were planning on redoing it like you Dead Zone right?
KaiserNeko wrote:We honestly don't like the special. It's mostly harmless, sure, but that'd kind of part of its problem. There's just so little to it, Goku Jr. is boring, the villains are forgettable, and I have nothing truly positive to say about it.
Also, it's more GT, and frankly? GT, in our eyes, is a mistake from top to bottom. So yeah, that is honestly being held against it.
I get what you're saying but with that special you get number 25 - Christmas is on 25th and its also at least better than EoB, Plan to eradicate, bio broly and few others.
Kiwimelon wrote:I wonder what you guys are going to do with Gohan once he reaches the Cell Games...will his voice actor change in order to get a more menacing and fiercer Gohan? Or will he just sound more serious and intimidating?
Well, guess I have to wait then.
Masako X will be playing Gohan til the end of the Cell Games. Afterwards the guy who plays Cloud in FF7 Abridged will play Adult Gohan. Everything else we'll just have to wait and see.
Oh for real? Never really guessed that one. Well, let's how this plays out in the future.
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I'm expecting Return of Cooler pretty soon , question is, will it be before, or after Bio Broly? I also really dislike 2nd movie with Broly, not big fan of Goten and runks antics, and Broly became much dumber
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coola wrote:I'm expecting Return of Cooler pretty soon , question is, will it be before, or after Bio Broly? I also really dislike 2nd movie with Broly, not big fan of Goten and runks antics, and Broly became much dumber
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I'm not that surprised they put 2nd coming below Bio Broly as I think Taka made an argument for that once. I'm gonna disagree of course and say Bio Broly is far worse. It's even more boring and has no star power. Who's idea was it to feature 2 characters who hardly get any focus outside of Gotenks? Goten and Trunks just couldn't carry a movie without Gohan, Piccolo, Goku, or Vegeta. Yeah Goku appears again for 5 seconds, but still it was for a quick gag to a fight I'd have liked to see. While I totally agree the first half or 2/3 of second coming sucks and is dull, all of Bio Broly is dull for me. I pretty much enjoy 2nd coming once the whole village stuff is dropped entirely.
But hey it's their list and it's still interesting to see their picks even if they may contrast my own.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.