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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Scsigs » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:17 pm

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mecha3000 wrote:So anyone excited for Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans Abridged tomorrow (or after tomorrow depending on your time zone)?
Absolutely. It's been a while since the last time we got DBZA content :)
It's like being a Sherlock fan, or if you're a Doctor Who fan, last year.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by FoolsGil » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:50 pm

I went to check, Episode 59 came out in June. Crazy, but there has been so much content coming out of TFS it hasn't been too bad of a wait, compared to long gaps we had in the past.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Scsigs » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:11 pm

I mean, I'm used to waiting too long for Yugioh Abridged, which has actually gotten on a decent schedule finally of around every 2-3 months, so this is not different.

On another case, anyone else think Lani, Grant, & Kirran's constant shitting on Goten goes a bit too far? I mean, I get it. He's a foil to Trunks & he's basically an expy of his father that needs character development. That shit I get, but to constantly bring that up & mercilessly shit on him when he's done nothing to deserve it is something I think is going a bit too far with the criticism. I mean, there's shitting on Super & saying GT's better, a statement that should NEVER be uttered, then there's shitting on a character who's not deserving of it.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Kanassa » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:39 pm

When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:38 pm

And number #1 is...

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BUDOKAI 3!

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by ShadowBardock89 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:23 pm

Ok, the title is the Plan to Eradicate Christmas. Turles would be.... happy?
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by FoolsGil » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:04 pm

I personally am excited to hear Hbi's Turles again.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:13 am

Scsigs wrote:I mean, I'm used to waiting too long for Yugioh Abridged, which has actually gotten on a decent schedule finally of around every 2-3 months, so this is not different.

On another case, anyone else think Lani, Grant, & Kirran's constant shitting on Goten goes a bit too far? I mean, I get it. He's a foil to Trunks & he's basically an expy of his father that needs character development. That shit I get, but to constantly bring that up & mercilessly shit on him when he's done nothing to deserve it is something I think is going a bit too far with the criticism. I mean, there's shitting on Super & saying GT's better, a statement that should NEVER be uttered, then there's shitting on a character who's not deserving of it.
It's funny, the one time I watch a TFS Play and they just rip on one of my favorite characters the whole time, and they blamed him cause they suck at the game and made his stats awful. like lol no

GT' is better than DBS (preToP)

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Scsigs » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:06 am

Dbzfan94 wrote:It's funny, the one time I watch a TFS Play and they just rip on one of my favorite characters the whole time, and they blamed him cause they suck at the game and made his stats awful. like lol no

GT's better than DBS (preToP)
I mean, I love their let's plays, but shamelessly ripping a character to pieces who really doesn't deserve it is kinda shitty & petty, especially when they have weak starting stats & they don't do anything to improve him. It's like, "Why do you guys think that they gave you a character to use to level up & make his stats better? This is an RPG, not a fighting game. Did Xenoverse teach you guys NOTHING? Stat allocation is everything."

Also, no. Super's been better than GT so far as I've been watching it. It's been more consistently entertaining for me & at least it's not 100% focused on Goku.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by KaiserNeko » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:12 am

... I'm kind confused why anyone would even take their playthroughs that seriously? Part of the joke with the whole thing is that they *obviously* deflect their own incompetence onto things that don't deserve it.

Although they're all wrong and dumb if they think GT is better than Super.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:18 am

Scsigs wrote:
Also, no. Super's been better than GT so far as I've been watching it.
That's your opinion; not factual like your signature comes off as. Also, notice I said pre-Tournament of Power. Bu let's not turn this into a GT vs DBS argument.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Kanassa » Mon Dec 25, 2017 2:21 am

Dbzfan94 wrote:
Scsigs wrote:
Also, no. Super's been better than GT so far as I've been watching it.
That's your opinion; not factual like your signature comes off as. Also, notice I said pre-Tournament of Power. Bu let's not turn this into a GT vs DBS argument.
This is the abridged thread, THE PERFECT PLACE FOR THIS DISCUSSION!
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Scsigs » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:40 am

KaiserNeko wrote:... I'm kind confused why anyone would even take their playthroughs that seriously? Part of the joke with the whole thing is that they *obviously* deflect their own incompetence onto things that don't deserve it.

Although they're all wrong and dumb if they think GT is better than Super.
It might be their deliveries to be honest. If they're supposed to be lighthearted jabs, or jokes, their delivery really doesn't hint at it to me. Like, when you guys write the characters the way you do in the Abridged Series, I know what to expect because you're obviously taking the piss out of the show. The playthrough commentaries don't always have that air of sarcasm or obvious jokes. It also doesn't help that they throw in criticisms that I genuinely agree with, or see why people would say them, like criticism of Goku's characterization from Z onwards & the writing of the Super anime in some instances could've been better, or how much better the Xenoverse games could've been.
I also don't always take their playing seriously, nor do I always agree with how they play the games they do, since I've played some of them myself & I know some of the tricks to them. Clearly they play games for the first time, or after a long time since their last playthroughs, & play them to get their opinions out as they play. I think a lot of their playthroughs are really entertaining, especially when binged after they're completed. It's just some of the random criticisms & Kirran & Grant's attitudes at times. Kirran states things as though they're facts, like that GT thing, hating Goku (which makes it seems like he's part of the section of your fanbase that blindly hate Goku after watching your episodes because they can't be bothered to watch the actual show & think for themselves &/or don't realize what you write is strictly a parody) after Z starts, & some other things. Don't get me wrong, Kirran can be a good source of comedy or knowledge, but I think he needs to check his ego at the door sometimes. Grant's at least a good conversationalist & keeps a good demeanor about him, so I think he balances out most of the time. Lani, I know what to expect & he & I seem to have similar viewpoints on some things, so I like him as a host of the channel. If it's mainly their delivery, fine, but sometimes the commentary comes off like there's no hyperbole at all.

And to GT, yes, it's not better than Super. It can be entertaining, but the overabundance of focus on Goku, making Goku a kid just to nerf him, Pan's endless uselessness unless the plot requires her actually being useful, Goten & trunks not fusing to make a teenaged Gotenks, every character by Goku being useless, etc, at least Super's been giving a lot of them either better characterizations or going out of its way to let some of them shine, which I think is the main reason it's put way ahead of Super at a base level. Even early on, I'd say it's still better than GT is, minus some rough starts that weren't the faults of the staff & were more so faults of Toei's harsh mandates that they had them under. Though, as far as I can tell, it's just Kirran who wholeheartedly thinks Super's worse than GT. Grant, I think does, but I don't think he's stated it as affirmatively as Kirran, & Lani, I don't think, likes GT more than Super. He just has criticisms of the show, & understandable ones at that.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Scsigs » Mon Dec 25, 2017 4:53 am

Dbzfan94 wrote:
Scsigs wrote:
Also, no. Super's been better than GT so far as I've been watching it.
That's your opinion; not factual like your signature comes off as. Also, notice I said pre-Tournament of Power. Bu let's not turn this into a GT vs DBS argument.
You wanna start a thread, or is there already one for that argument?
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:24 am

I think the first 30 or so episodes of GT are better than the first 30 or so episodes of Super. After that, Super takes it clearly.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by FoolsGil » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:30 am

All I'm saying is, I appreciate GT a whole lot more after Super. Super's highs are better than GT's highs, but Super's lows, are worst than GT's lows. a lot worst.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Kataphrut » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:56 am

Speaking of DBZA in relation to Super (he said, in an attempt to shift the subject onto something slightly more relevant to the thread), I think it's funny that the abridged Hatchiyak special is coming out the same week Super featured a monster that was basically an expy of Hatchiyak.

Hell, now I think about it, this basically happened last year too! We got Abridged Broly at Christmas, which was around the time we got our first sneak peek at Super's female Broly character. Funnily enough, I think Kale ended up having more in common with TFS' Broly than she did with actual Broly, being a meek character who was triggered into a berserker rage.

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Scsigs » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:59 am

FoolsGil wrote:All I'm saying is, I appreciate GT a whole lot more after Super. Super's highs are better than GT's highs, but Super's lows, are worst than GT's lows. A lot worst.
Really depends on what you're talking about. Like, I personally think that the Battle of Gods Arc is the lowest point of the series so far, because it retold the movie, had TERRIBLE pacing, & didn't add anything new with the extra time added. From there, the arcs have gotten progressively better in terms of storytelling. Like, I like the TV version of Resurrection F a LOT more than the movie, mostly because it should've been a TV arc anyways. And the arcs have only gotten better afterwards, though there ARE some missteps & I still think arcs in anime like Dragon Ball ARE better when binged rather than watched once a week.
Kataphrut wrote:Speaking of DBZA in relation to Super (he said, in an attempt to shift the subject onto something slightly more relevant to the thread), I think it's funny that the abridged Hatchiyak special is coming out the same week Super featured a monster that was basically an expy of Hatchiyak.

Hell, now I think about it, this basically happened last year too! We got Abridged Broly at Christmas, which was around the time we got our first sneak peek at Super's female Broly character. Funnily enough, I think Kale ended up having more in common with TFS' Broly than she did with actual Broly, being a meek character who was triggered into a berserker rage.
Well, I mean, the dubs of Kai & Super & the sub of Super have had coincidences like that. Like, the week Vegeta got his shit stomped in by 18 in Kai when the earlier arcs ran on Toonami, I believe, was the same day that he got his shit stomped in by Hit in Super in Japan, so it's definitely nothing new, it's just specifically like this.

By the way, I love that we get 2 pieces of DB-related content today, Christmas day. First MistareFusion & his DB Dissection series getting to the first Cooler movie & the new special from TFS. If I believed in a god, I'd say that being's finally in a good mood after a year of not being in one.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Noah » Mon Dec 25, 2017 11:35 am

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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:17 pm

I was not really feeling DBcember this year, but out of curiosity I checked which game took the first place and they got it right.
FighterZ is not out yet, so it was either Budokai 3 or Infinite World.
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