I feel that on Youtube and reddit the majority are far less knowledgeable about the English side of Dragon Ball. Here Funimation's Z dub is just seen as one of many different English DB dubs, whereas on Youtube and reddit it's "the dub", since so many have been bombarded with releases and video games featuring Funi actors or BF music.Thanos wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:45 pmI have no interest in adding to the hostility or coming across like I don't want them here, but sometimes I wonder why FUNi fans congregate here at all. I think it's cool that everyone is welcome and that's perfect, but... you have two rather large Dragon Ball Reddit communities and all of YouTube which lean heavily on the FUNi dub stuff, and Kanzenshuu to me traditionally was the one place where people weren't called a "weeb" for simply referring to characters by the names given to them by their creator. It's not uncommon at all to see argument and disagreements here based on mistranslations.Kunzait_83 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:49 am"these are two entirely different fanbases that might as well not even bother interacting with each other anymore."
...that REALLY gets to the heart of it. I've felt this way (and have even said as much myself) for literally decades now. We're all just NOT into the same series, period, because the sheer gulf of difference between them is just THAT stark and overpowering.
What we've had here for decades now are two completely different fanbases for two totally different, disparate works that are totally incompatible with one another and shouldn't even be probably interacting in the same space with one another on the regular: because despite ostensibly featuring the same characters and story, there's so much that's been changed at the foundational level of the English version that it ultimately leaves so very little in the way of substantive common ground between both fanbases for both versions.
if I'm not mistaken, it wasn't until fairly recently that many FUNi purists decided to join Kanzenshuu because it feels like it's only in recent years that many Japanese vs. FUNi debates took place in threads here, by and large. Back in the Daizenshuu days, it feels like the community was quite simpatico in their preference for the Japanese version, and words like "Hercule" were shunned and even censored at one point. I do still find it peculiar seeing all the "Faulconer redub" threads in the fan forum. Personally, if I were a FUNi fan, I don't know if I'd bother coming here at all. I see them get piled on for voicing their preferences (something I'm guilty of and I'm still working on trying to be nicer about it, in earnest), and one has to feel bad for them. Again, it's awesome that they're here but there seems to be an insurmountable miscommunication based on all of the nuanced differences between the two versions.
On this website it's common knowledge that BF didn't actually do most of the music for Funi's Z dub, whereas it would be news to someone on Youtube.