Kunzait_83 wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:41 am
Duo wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:46 am
People tend to conflate Capitalism with Corporatism. It's a real shame in terms of effective communication regarding those subjects.
*snip huge rant about capitalism*
I know you probably weren't talking to me, but just in case you were, I never said that I love capitalism like some libertarian cultist. I'm in favor of limited
capitalism, combined with limited
socialism. Progression taxation, robust social safety nets, etc. But people should be allowed to invest and make money on their own... just not to the point where 1 rich person hordes enough that other people starve.
Because the opposite that is being proposed, communism, is just as bad when taken to the extreme. If you want to talk about human suffering and death, look at what happened in Stalinist Russia or Maoist China. And of course some people will go and say 'no, no, no, that's not real communism', but that is what we got when they tried to create communist states. History shows that they just don't work, at least not at the current level of our maturity as a society. Maybe in a future where we have technology like Star Trek and don't have to worry about hunger, disease, or war, but that's way far off from now. Currently, the best model seems to be that employed by countries like Denmark, Norway, Finland, etc. Sure it's not perfect, but it's the best we can do right now, looking at all of the different models of government in the world and how well-off people are in them.