A thought on Mark as Mr. Satan's real name(off topic spoiler

mister yummy · Post by **mister yummy** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:52 pm

We all know Mr. Satan is a wrestler, right? Well, the word Mark has significance in the world of pro wrestling. Most of us here, I'm sure, are familiar with the nature of that sport. If you're not, please stop reading now. The spoiler might ruin it for you.

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Anyways, Professional Wrestling is more about the show than about any sort of competition. In fact, the wrestling is largely pre-determined, and who wins and loses is always predetermined. Yes, I know this is hardly a spoiler, they hardly try to hide this fact anymore.

Anyways, to someone in the sport, a fan who believes it all to be real is called a "mark". Actually, most anyone who goes to the show is considered a mark, but the other usage is more universal.

Seems a bit ironic that our favorite fighter who's skeptical of the ki techniques he witnesses in front of him, always claiming them to be a "trick" would be named Mark.

Perhaps, as a wrestler, he's skeptical because of the nature of his own sport. He's used to everything being a trick, and so proclaims it to his fans and enterouage. They, knowing him as someone "in the know" about such things, believe him.

After all, pro wrestling is all just a bunch of tricks. But a mark wouldn't know that, would he. Conversely, the firghting in Dragonball's not a bunch of tricks, but we could hardly expect Mark to know that, could we.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:08 pm

Actually my brother made this same connection. Both him and I are former Pro Wrestlers, I just didn't think about it.

Zuhalter2000 · Post by **Zuhalter2000** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:25 pm

That is very interesting and ironic. I somehow doubt that Toriyama had that in mind though.

Kunzait_83 · Post by **Kunzait_83** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:07 pm

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:14 pm

I think Viz used it to explain the H-Word. "This is Hercule, who's also known with the wrestling name Mr. Satan!". Something like that.

Tyro · Post by **Tyro** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:33 pm

B-kun wrote:I think Viz used it to explain the H-Word. "This is Hercule, who's also known with the wrestling name Mr. Satan!". Something like that.

Announcer: "The great combatant Hercule--formerly known as the wrestler "Mr. Satan"--has announced he will enter the Cell Game!!"

KKZ · Post by **KKZ** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:49 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:He wears a gi

I've seen wrestlers wear martial arts gis before, albeit somewhat stylized ones most of the time. I can't give you any specific examples.

Post by **Herms** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:50 pm

"Mark" is a pun on akuma/devil, as befits his ring name. If you rearrange akuma, you get maaku, the Japanese way or writing "Mark".

Kunzait_83 wrote:Where exactly did this whole thing with him being a wrestler come from? Is it a dub or Viz thing? I can't really remember at the moment.

Possibly just from his looks, but he does refer to himself usually not as a martial artist (budouka), but as a grappler/hand-to-hand fighter (kakutouka), so that may have something to do with it.

Tyro wrote:Announcer: "The great combatant Hercule--formerly known as the wrestler "Mr. Satan"--has announced he will enter the Cell Game!!"

The original line: "That super genius of hand-to-hand combat, our very own Satan, has decided to enter the dreadful Cell Games!"

Saiyan-Professor · Post by **Saiyan-Professor** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:25 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:Mr. Satan isn't a wrestler at all though. He's a martial artist. A "sports" martial artist (like one of those UFC dudes), but a martial artist nonetheless. Other than his little Championship belt-thingy and his penchant for showy entrances and pre-fight trash talk, he has little to nothing to do with wrestling whatsoever.

He wears a gi, he uses nothing but kicks and martial arts strikes when he fights, we hardly ever see him grapple all that much (other than him using an occaisional headlock here and there), and if all that weren't enough, he always flat out refers to himself as a martial artist.

Where exactly did this whole thing with him being a wrestler come from? Is it a dub or Viz thing? I can't really remember at the moment.

I guess you can look at him as someone from UFC, they have martial artists, wrestlers etc.

Edit: This reminds me of an old interview clip; where Bruce Lee once said that in a real fight you use whatever it takes to win. I think Mark lived this philosophy because he packed a Desert Eag (or something that resembles it) in the Buu Saga.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:20 pm

I always tought it was kayfabe or something

TriforceCaptre · Post by **TriforceCaptre** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:32 pm

Even with the whole Akuma thing being the official reason behind his name being Mark. That pro wrestling "mark" connection is still a cool little bit of irony with Mr. Satan being a false idol of sorts.

Bussani · Post by **Bussani** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:21 pm

TriforceCaptre wrote:Even with the whole Akuma thing being the official reason behind his name being Mark. That pro wrestling "mark" connection is still a cool little bit of irony with Mr. Satan being a false idol of sorts.

I agree. Intentional or not, it's kind of amusing.

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A thought on Mark as Mr. Satan's real name(off topic spoiler

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