How would you handle a Freeza movie adaption?
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How would you handle a Freeza movie adaption?
Okay, so Dragonball Evolution came out on DVD recently, and to be quite honest, I found it pretty good; the effects were awesome, and the action was decent. It wasn't done as well as it could've been done obviously, but I didn't judge and I ended up enjoying it. One thing I was particularly impressed with though, was Piccolo. I couldn't imagine him done better, could you? Well anyway, there's probably going to be a sequel, and if so, Freeza's probably gonna be in it...
So I was watching recently 'The Chronicles Of Riddick', and a character caught my interest: 'Lord Marshall'. Somehow, this guy totally reminded me of Freeza; whenever I saw him, 'Freeza' would scream in my head. His character, the way he looks, his powers, the plot surrounding him, and the 'Saiyans versus repression' idea seems totally reminiscent of Freeza. If you haven't watched the movie yet (it's decent), then maybe you should! I know he's not white, but his deseign seems to be just right... really sinister. Here's a link: http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0005032/mediaindex
So, in my opinion, this would be the best way to handle this character for a movie adaption. Although, the tone of DBE wouldn't really work with it.
How do you envision a movie Freeza?
So I was watching recently 'The Chronicles Of Riddick', and a character caught my interest: 'Lord Marshall'. Somehow, this guy totally reminded me of Freeza; whenever I saw him, 'Freeza' would scream in my head. His character, the way he looks, his powers, the plot surrounding him, and the 'Saiyans versus repression' idea seems totally reminiscent of Freeza. If you haven't watched the movie yet (it's decent), then maybe you should! I know he's not white, but his deseign seems to be just right... really sinister. Here's a link: http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0005032/mediaindex
So, in my opinion, this would be the best way to handle this character for a movie adaption. Although, the tone of DBE wouldn't really work with it.
How do you envision a movie Freeza?
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Freeza should probably be played by some feminine young actor and have him dubbed over to sound almost as deep as Marster's Daimao, that'd be kick ass.
I'm not sure about the designs, maybe keep him looking the same and nothing too scaly or over the top if they're going to make him look like a lizard.
As for transformations, if they have to lose one, they should lose the second form, since it's basically just the first form only larger with different horns, when he transforms at first it has to be scary and gorey, so his spiky/xenomorph look would match that perfectly, and make him slightly more primal like this.
His final form should be the most femboyish, definitely. A Smooth body with alien lines and markings over certain parts would look right... I'm focusing on the cute side too much, my avatar is rubbing off on me the wrong way...
Ok, definitely make him vicious and cruel, he needs to use his finger nails like a cat almost and he'd kill most of his own men, of course, he needs the highest body count!
The space armor that everybody uses in this part of the series should definitely be kept pretty much the same, only clean rubbery/Batmanesque + metal look, Raditz's, if he appears, should be worn and dirty though.
Freeza should have a bit of a tunic added as would all the high rank killers like Zarbon, people thought Freeza was an old lady alien in the dub, he should look like a young crossdresser alien in this.
I might do doodles of how I envision all of the Freeza arc characters, including Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta...
I'm not thinking about this too much am I? >.>
I'm not sure about the designs, maybe keep him looking the same and nothing too scaly or over the top if they're going to make him look like a lizard.
As for transformations, if they have to lose one, they should lose the second form, since it's basically just the first form only larger with different horns, when he transforms at first it has to be scary and gorey, so his spiky/xenomorph look would match that perfectly, and make him slightly more primal like this.
His final form should be the most femboyish, definitely. A Smooth body with alien lines and markings over certain parts would look right... I'm focusing on the cute side too much, my avatar is rubbing off on me the wrong way...
Ok, definitely make him vicious and cruel, he needs to use his finger nails like a cat almost and he'd kill most of his own men, of course, he needs the highest body count!
The space armor that everybody uses in this part of the series should definitely be kept pretty much the same, only clean rubbery/Batmanesque + metal look, Raditz's, if he appears, should be worn and dirty though.
Freeza should have a bit of a tunic added as would all the high rank killers like Zarbon, people thought Freeza was an old lady alien in the dub, he should look like a young crossdresser alien in this.
I might do doodles of how I envision all of the Freeza arc characters, including Raditz, Nappa and Vegeta...
I'm not thinking about this too much am I? >.>
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I want a live action Freeza to be similar to Raul Julia's portrayal of M. Bison in the live-action Street Fighter movie. Borderline insane and over-the-top, while still being absolutely brilliant.
As far as looks go, I'd like to see them try to do something similar to Piccolo, even if they go as far as to put him in a weird Batman suit. As long as it looks like the character (in a Batman suit), I'm fine.
As far as looks go, I'd like to see them try to do something similar to Piccolo, even if they go as far as to put him in a weird Batman suit. As long as it looks like the character (in a Batman suit), I'm fine.
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Let's see... First off, Freeza would be portrayed by a male actor.
Second, appearance-wise I'd strike a balance. Not much would change, actually. He'd still have the reptilian-esque tail. But he'd look a little more humanoid in other ways. I couldn't tell you for sure until I actually tried to draw him. (Hmmmm...) Oh, and he'd wear clothes.
I think I'd only have him transform once, for the story's sake. The 'transform, fight, transform, fight, transform, fight' sequence worked fine for the manga, but in a movie I think that'd seem contrived and would take too long. So I'd give him one spikey, restrictive form that resembled a cross between his first and second forms, and then his slim true form.
As far has how that story would actually play out... I dunno. I'd have to give it more thought.
Second, appearance-wise I'd strike a balance. Not much would change, actually. He'd still have the reptilian-esque tail. But he'd look a little more humanoid in other ways. I couldn't tell you for sure until I actually tried to draw him. (Hmmmm...) Oh, and he'd wear clothes.
I think I'd only have him transform once, for the story's sake. The 'transform, fight, transform, fight, transform, fight' sequence worked fine for the manga, but in a movie I think that'd seem contrived and would take too long. So I'd give him one spikey, restrictive form that resembled a cross between his first and second forms, and then his slim true form.
As far has how that story would actually play out... I dunno. I'd have to give it more thought.
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0_0;omegacwa wrote:If any of you saw Inglourious Basterds then I have to say that Christopher Waltz "Hans Landa" Would be an amazing Freeza.
Yeah... You win.
That's... Yeah. 0_0; That would be absolutely perfect.
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Wow. I really thought I was the only one who thought this. When I first saw him in IB, something ticked that said "Whoa, this guy is perfect for a live-action Freeza...of course I'm probably the only one who thinks this, hahaha." Small world, indeed.omegacwa wrote:If any of you saw Inglourious Basterds then I have to say that Christopher Waltz "Hans Landa" Would be an amazing Freeza.
But yeah, he would be perfect.
The idea of Christopher Waltz as Freeza is an awesome one, but I can't help but imagine how silly that would look.
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Journey to the West, chapter 26 wrote:The strong man will meet someone stronger still:
Come to naught at last he surely will!
Zephyr wrote:And that's to say nothing of how pretty much impossible it is to capture what made the original run of the series so great. I'm in the generation of fans that started with Toonami, so I totally empathize with the feeling of having "missed the party", experiencing disappointment, and wanting to experience it myself. But I can't, that's how life is. Time is a bitch. The party is over. Kageyama, Kikuchi, and Maeda are off the sauce now; Yanami almost OD'd; Yamamoto got arrested; Toriyama's not going to light trash cans on fire and hang from the chandelier anymore. We can't get the band back together, and even if we could, everyone's either old, in poor health, or calmed way the fuck down. Best we're going to get, and are getting, is a party that's almost entirely devoid of the magic that made the original one so awesome that we even want more.
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Sooooo we'd end up with Funi Freeza.Kunzait_83 wrote:I dunno if I'd actually cast the guy HIMSELF as Freeza, but I'd definitely use his Basterds performance as a guide and frame of reference for how Freeza ought to be portrayed, characterization and performance-wise, in live action. In attitude, tone, and overall persona, the character of Hans Landa is an excellent barometer for what kind of direction Freeza as a character should be taken in via a live action DBZ film.Remix wrote:The idea of Christopher Waltz as Freeza is an awesome one, but I can't help but imagine how silly that would look.
But let's not kid ourselves: we all saw Evolution, and it was a pretty lightweight and toothless affair. No way in hell would any Hollywood exec have the balls to do Freeza properly. He'd be watered down all to hell for the PG going crowd.
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The Hans Landa character is definitely the archtype for they should do for Freeza if they every get around to making a live action adaptation of the Freeza arc. Having Christoph Waltz himself do the part might be tricky. Maybe having him dub the voice ala James Earl Jones in the Star Wars movies would be more believable.
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@Kunzait - That was my point earlier; it seems the people involved with DBE took it as a big joke.
DragonBall has been around 25 years and this is what we get out of it....although Avatar the Last Airbender is an American anime-esque show on tv for only a few short years and they are makign that into a HUGE movie that looks quite expensive and pretty well done.
It really and truly pisses me off to no end.
DragonBall has been around 25 years and this is what we get out of it....although Avatar the Last Airbender is an American anime-esque show on tv for only a few short years and they are makign that into a HUGE movie that looks quite expensive and pretty well done.
It really and truly pisses me off to no end.
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I have to agree with this. Would be quite nice. And have Tim Curry voice him.Hao_Kaiser wrote:I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I want a live action Freeza to be similar to Raul Julia's portrayal of M. Bison in the live-action Street Fighter movie. Borderline insane and over-the-top, while still being absolutely brilliant.
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For the next movie they could do Raditz up to the point where they are on Namek.
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Well, I'd rather have a male actor portraying Freeza similar to his Japanese seiyuu, but in terms of who exactly I'd pick, I have no idea because that's just not my area.
Only big change I'd make is he'd wear his armor in his final form as well--this is not my preference, but I know there would be movie critics and parents out there that would go "why is he naked!" so its mostly just a safety measure.
We need to keep the hover chair; I really liked how it kind of aided in hiding how powerful he was beyond simply seeing Kuririn and Gohan freak out upon sensing Freeza's ki.
As for looks, I'd try to stay as close as possible; Freeza's design isn't nearly as impossible to execute properly as the conundrum that is Goku's hair (though I would still feel no less rage than I do now towards Chatku even if he DID have the hair; because he lacks the personality).
Speaking of personality, I want Freeza kept very IC. He needs his "Oh ho ho ho." laugh and you'd need an actor with the ability to leap between polite!Freeza and ANGRY!Freeza.
There are other things mentioned in this thread I agree with; like looking for a pretty-boy body type, and adding CG would be really helpful when it comes to things like transformations.
About Avatar; I think one of the main reasons its getting better treatment is because they've got the creators of the series involved. As far as I know, Mr. Toriyama just signed papers to let them adapt his series but wasn't physically there to see each and every thing all the way through. Few people have the guts to radically alter a series to their own preferences when they've got the creators of said series standing right there beside them fact-checking and approving stuff.
Only big change I'd make is he'd wear his armor in his final form as well--this is not my preference, but I know there would be movie critics and parents out there that would go "why is he naked!" so its mostly just a safety measure.
We need to keep the hover chair; I really liked how it kind of aided in hiding how powerful he was beyond simply seeing Kuririn and Gohan freak out upon sensing Freeza's ki.
As for looks, I'd try to stay as close as possible; Freeza's design isn't nearly as impossible to execute properly as the conundrum that is Goku's hair (though I would still feel no less rage than I do now towards Chatku even if he DID have the hair; because he lacks the personality).
Speaking of personality, I want Freeza kept very IC. He needs his "Oh ho ho ho." laugh and you'd need an actor with the ability to leap between polite!Freeza and ANGRY!Freeza.
There are other things mentioned in this thread I agree with; like looking for a pretty-boy body type, and adding CG would be really helpful when it comes to things like transformations.
About Avatar; I think one of the main reasons its getting better treatment is because they've got the creators of the series involved. As far as I know, Mr. Toriyama just signed papers to let them adapt his series but wasn't physically there to see each and every thing all the way through. Few people have the guts to radically alter a series to their own preferences when they've got the creators of said series standing right there beside them fact-checking and approving stuff.