To You, What's The Best Saga In The Anime Version Of Z?
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To You, What's The Best Saga In The Anime Version Of Z?
While my favorite sagas will always be the events that took place on Namek, the best saga after that would be everything involving Boo, starting at the Tenkaichi Budokai, when Gohan-San is revealed to be Saiyaman.
The reasoning behind my choice being the Boo arc in the anime, is that basically at the start of it all, just as everyone thinks that everything's okay and the universe is safe, there were things happening behind the scenes that the Z-fighters weren't even aware of. Watching some episodes both yesterday and today, I realized that before everything was revealed about Kaioshin, Kibit, Spopovitch and Yamu, the saga began by managing to keep you guessing. That throughout everything Goku and company had gone through by that point, they had no clue that there even existed a higher being in the form of Kaioshin. Add on the fact that no one was aware of Babidi and Dabra's existence, you have a series of events that at first played with your head, but later on became very, very clear. There were also a lot of twists and turns because of the involvment of all the preceeding Boos. I'd say that the only flaw would be Gohan being hyped up for so long to defeat Boo, only to be absorbed in the end. Even with that said, you get the sense that Toriyama most likely knew this was his last chapter regarding the DragonBall mythos, and he probably felt that he had to make this the best and most interesting arc he possibly could.
Well, that's my reasoning behind why I chose the entire Boo arc.
What's your favorite saga in the anime version of Z, and why?
The reasoning behind my choice being the Boo arc in the anime, is that basically at the start of it all, just as everyone thinks that everything's okay and the universe is safe, there were things happening behind the scenes that the Z-fighters weren't even aware of. Watching some episodes both yesterday and today, I realized that before everything was revealed about Kaioshin, Kibit, Spopovitch and Yamu, the saga began by managing to keep you guessing. That throughout everything Goku and company had gone through by that point, they had no clue that there even existed a higher being in the form of Kaioshin. Add on the fact that no one was aware of Babidi and Dabra's existence, you have a series of events that at first played with your head, but later on became very, very clear. There were also a lot of twists and turns because of the involvment of all the preceeding Boos. I'd say that the only flaw would be Gohan being hyped up for so long to defeat Boo, only to be absorbed in the end. Even with that said, you get the sense that Toriyama most likely knew this was his last chapter regarding the DragonBall mythos, and he probably felt that he had to make this the best and most interesting arc he possibly could.
Well, that's my reasoning behind why I chose the entire Boo arc.
What's your favorite saga in the anime version of Z, and why?
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I choose the Buu arc because of two reasons:
1) That one new art team they bring in that I found to be phenomenal. Studio Cockpit I think? (I could be wrong). The ones that did episode #274 among others.
2) The fillers (Goku and Vegeta's extended visit inside Buu, extra Saiyaman adventures, more Vejitto, more Majin Vegeta, etc.)
I can't discount "those three years" fillers though, as that's where the "Goku and Piccolo learn how to drive" episode is. I wish we'd had more filler like that...
1) That one new art team they bring in that I found to be phenomenal. Studio Cockpit I think? (I could be wrong). The ones that did episode #274 among others.
2) The fillers (Goku and Vegeta's extended visit inside Buu, extra Saiyaman adventures, more Vejitto, more Majin Vegeta, etc.)
I can't discount "those three years" fillers though, as that's where the "Goku and Piccolo learn how to drive" episode is. I wish we'd had more filler like that...
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What was it that grabbed you about the art, in those episodes?Chuquita wrote:I choose the Buu arc because of two reasons:
1) That one new art team they bring in that I found to be phenomenal. Studio Cockpit I think? (I could be wrong). The ones that did episode #274 among others.
2) The fillers (Goku and Vegeta's extended visit inside Buu, extra Saiyaman adventures, more Vejitto, more Majin Vegeta, etc.)
I can't discount "those three years" fillers though, as that's where the "Goku and Piccolo learn how to drive" episode is. I wish we'd had more filler like that...
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For episodes like #274, its the expressiveness the characters display in their faces and the smoother body movements. I'd have liked to have seen how they would have pulled off a db movie if given the budget.Ultimate_DB_Fan wrote:What was it that grabbed you about the art, in those episodes?Chuquita wrote:I choose the Buu arc because of two reasons:
1) That one new art team they bring in that I found to be phenomenal. Studio Cockpit I think? (I could be wrong). The ones that did episode #274 among others.
2) The fillers (Goku and Vegeta's extended visit inside Buu, extra Saiyaman adventures, more Vejitto, more Majin Vegeta, etc.)
I can't discount "those three years" fillers though, as that's where the "Goku and Piccolo learn how to drive" episode is. I wish we'd had more filler like that...
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Has to be the Jinzonengen arc mostly because of nostalgia.
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A few years ago, I decided to buy the Android saga, Imperfect Cell saga, and Perfect Cell saga box sets along with the Cell Games singles. Imperfect and Perfect Cell, and Cell Games were bought off of Overstock, and because I was a dumb-ass, I bought Android from Suncoast, at full price. So I watched them all, and it was the first ever arc I had seen all the way through. I am very glad to own these sets.
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Probably the Cell saga, since it had some of the best moments.
-Gohan's explosion of fury.
-Goku's farewell, which was beautiful, seeing him standing there smiling knowing he was about to die. A moment that sums up the character for me.
-Vegeta first being shown to care for someone other than himself.
-And since it's in the anime, I'll also add the sense of desperation during the Kamehame-Ha struggle, with all the characters giving their everything knowing that it didn't even matter.
Although it was slightly weighed down by the much too constant shots of Mr Satan and company in awe.
-Gohan's explosion of fury.
-Goku's farewell, which was beautiful, seeing him standing there smiling knowing he was about to die. A moment that sums up the character for me.
-Vegeta first being shown to care for someone other than himself.
-And since it's in the anime, I'll also add the sense of desperation during the Kamehame-Ha struggle, with all the characters giving their everything knowing that it didn't even matter.
Although it was slightly weighed down by the much too constant shots of Mr Satan and company in awe.
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The Cell Saga, especially the Cell Games.
It was already my favorite part in the manga, but the TV series version is almost perfect (it loses a few points for some of the filler). The music is especially noteworthy. That moment where Gohan first transforms into a SSJ2 is one of the greatest moments in anime.
It was already my favorite part in the manga, but the TV series version is almost perfect (it loses a few points for some of the filler). The music is especially noteworthy. That moment where Gohan first transforms into a SSJ2 is one of the greatest moments in anime.
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This is a tough one... I gut says Freeza saga but my heart says Buu. If I had to choose between the two it would the Buu saga, why? Vegeta's mid-life crisis. Rob Bricken at Topless Robot explained it best.
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For the anime?
I would have to say Buu saga. Often times during this arc the anime's art quality exceeded the original manga, which was beginning to look rather rushed (and occasionally flat-out shitty). They also added a lot of filler which actually ADDED to the experience for a change. There were many "missed opportunities" in the original chapters during the Buu stuff, and the anime always capitalized on those opportunities. Overall, they took easily the worst arc of the manga and made it significantly more bearable. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of better moments throughout the series, but for the anime itself, this is where they were at their best.
I would have to say Buu saga. Often times during this arc the anime's art quality exceeded the original manga, which was beginning to look rather rushed (and occasionally flat-out shitty). They also added a lot of filler which actually ADDED to the experience for a change. There were many "missed opportunities" in the original chapters during the Buu stuff, and the anime always capitalized on those opportunities. Overall, they took easily the worst arc of the manga and made it significantly more bearable. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of better moments throughout the series, but for the anime itself, this is where they were at their best.
Got to be honest: I haven't seen most of the anime since I hate most filler. I did, however, enjoy a lot of the Saiyan Saga's filler, so I'll say that arc.
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It would have to be the Cell arc, the canon material is the best in the series and of course Gohan's SSJ 2 transformation was so well done in the anime.
And I would also say the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai arc is another favourite. This is not only for the actual canon material of the arc but also the filler before that is, in my opinion, the best filler in the series.
And I would also say the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai arc is another favourite. This is not only for the actual canon material of the arc but also the filler before that is, in my opinion, the best filler in the series.
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I like the Saiyan arc the best. The "bad animation" episodes weren't really bad and the good stuff was really good! Plus, while there is a lot of filler (like any other part of DBZ), most of it takes place as throw-away episodes that I can skip to get to the important parts. In other arcs, I find that the filler is more about stretching out canon stuff than entire filler episodes that I can just skip over if I don't feel like watching them.
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My Favorite saga? Well, truth be told, my favorite of the entire Meta-series would have to be the original arc, the Pilaf saga. Though it definitely wasn't my introduction to the series, it is perhaps the most shining example of Toriyama-ness in the entire story. The whole thing just reeks of our favoite manga-ka's signature bizarro humor. Pilaf being present from near the beginning in the anime was a plus too.
For the Z portion of the show, I'm going with the majority and calling it the Buu saga. Though far from the best in the original manga(That title belongs to the magnificent Saiya-jin/Freeza arc), it was presented with perhaps the most enthusiasm by the anime staff. Plus, after about 10 years, they finally got it right with the filler!
For the Z portion of the show, I'm going with the majority and calling it the Buu saga. Though far from the best in the original manga(That title belongs to the magnificent Saiya-jin/Freeza arc), it was presented with perhaps the most enthusiasm by the anime staff. Plus, after about 10 years, they finally got it right with the filler!
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