FUNi Remastered "Double Features" vs Dragon Box

Greenman · Post by **Greenman** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:14 am

I've seen a lot of comparisons between FUNimation's "remastered" season sets and the Dragon Boxes. However I'm having trouble finding any comparisons between FUNi's remastered movie releases and Dragon Box: The Movies. Does anyone know of any or have the ability to make one yourself?

Also, I realize both the remastered sets and the Dragon Box are widescreen. Are the US releases framed the same way as the Dragon Box? In other words, Did FUNimation crop their 4:3 prints in the same areas in the frames as Toei originally did?

Thanks.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:23 am

I'm going off of memory here, so don't go with what I'm saying 100%, but I think they were cropped just a tad less than the Toei Box. and some of the animation errors are still slightly visible (IE, that time they didn't finish drawing Gohan's Masenko) but it's not bad at all, and from what I've been privy to, the movies were mastered on actual higher quality Cinema grade film stock, so those masters were much higher quality than the TV series, so thusly FUNi's generational masters were much better, and thus the "Remaster" process that caused so many problems in the Earlier Season sets didn't have nearly the same dastardly effect on the movies.

IE: The Remaster of the movies looks more like the later seasons moreso than the first.

Also, I haven't seen anything on the Blu-ray releases, were they any good?

Shadow-Link · Post by **Shadow-Link** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:58 am

I'll try to make some comparison shots today, so keep a close eye on this topic.

EDIT: I ran into some trouble while trying to take the screens. MPC and VLC dont display the video in the correct resolution and i wasnt able to fix this, and WMP doesnt need FFDShow for decoding DVD's so i'm not able to use the screengrab function.

Do you guys know a good way to take screens?

Greenman · Post by **Greenman** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:52 pm

Shadow-Link wrote:Do you guys know a good way to take screens?

Sure do! Thanks to godofchaos.

Edit: Except for the 640x480 part, obviously.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:09 pm

EDIT: I did not make this image.

(Dragon Box) (Remastered)
I think FUNi's had more footage on the tops, bottoms, and sides.

Greenman · Post by **Greenman** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:20 pm

Just the kind of thing I was looking for.

Thank you. If anyone has anymore they'd be much appreciated too.

sumpter360 · Post by **sumpter360** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:27 pm

I made some comparisons from DBZ Movies 1, 6, and a few from 8. They don't display the extra footage on the FUNi Double Features as well as the Gogeta picture above, but they were made to show the differences in color between the DragonBoxes and the Double Features.

Hope these are helpful to you!

DBZ Movie 1 Comparisons part 1: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/13602
DBZ Movie 1 Comparisons part 2: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/13603
DBZ Movie 6 Comparisons part 1: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/13607
DBZ Movie 6 Comparisons part 2: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/13608
DBZ Movie 8 Comparisons part 1: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/13386

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:28 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:EDIT: I did not make this image.
*Snip*
(Dragon Box) (Remastered)
I think FUNi's had more footage on the tops, bottoms, and sides.

Hey! it's the one I made!

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:36 pm

*rises from obscurity*

I made a thread a long time ago posting screencaps from the first 6 remastered movies. We didn't get much Dragon Box pics, but you can get a good idea of how the double features are:

http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.php?t=9441

Remastered Movie 7:
http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.p ... 710#236710

Dragon Box Movie 7:
http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.p ... 599#237599

Remastered Movie 9:
http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.p ... 916#237916

Dragon Box Movie 9:
http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.p ... 709#237709

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:44 pm

I'll be god damned if anybody can find anything on that stupid fucking PHPbb search function. I was trying to access the original thread that the picture I posted earlier came from. No luck.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:47 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:I'll be god damned if anybody can find anything on that stupid fucking PHPbb search function. I was trying to access the original thread that the picture I posted earlier came from. No luck.

Just type in Movies 12 & 13 double feature.

sumpter360 wrote:DBZ Movie 8 Comparisons part 1: http://comparescreenshots.slicx.com/comparison/13386

God, Movie 8 is so bright

. That's even worse than Season 2.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:52 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:I'll be god damned if anybody can find anything on that stupid fucking PHPbb search function. I was trying to access the original thread that the picture I posted earlier came from. No luck.
Just type in Movies 12 & 13 double feature.

OH! WOW! Never thought of that one. [/sarcasm]

It is not there. You can not find what you're looking for if you type it out directly. On a side note, I did find a thread that I was looking for a month ago. Completely unrelated search terms seem to yield the best results.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:54 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:I'll be god damned if anybody can find anything on that stupid fucking PHPbb search function. I was trying to access the original thread that the picture I posted earlier came from. No luck.
Just type in Movies 12 & 13 double feature.
OH! WOW! Never thought of that one. [/sarcasm]

It is not there. You can not find what you're looking for if you type it out directly. On a side note, I did find a thread that I was looking for a month ago. Completely unrelated search terms seem to yield the best results.

http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.p ... le+feature

*ahem*

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:56 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.p ... le+feature

*ahem*

I thank you for whatever witchcraft you used to obtain this.

Greenman · Post by **Greenman** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:05 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:*rises from obscurity*

I made a thread a long time ago posting screencaps from the first 6 remastered movies. We didn't get much Dragon Box pics, but you can get a good idea of how the double features are:

http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.php?t=9441

Remastered Movie 7:
http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.p ... 710#236710

Dragon Box Movie 7:
http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.p ... 599#237599

Remastered Movie 9:
http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.p ... 916#237916

Dragon Box Movie 9:
http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.p ... 709#237709

That was exactly what I was looking for. Thank you to everyone who posted screens.

They look a lot better than the single releases. One thing that bothers me, though, is the brightness. The characters have the same ghostly white skin as the season sets. Still, I guess I'll be getting some of these. It'll probably be a long time before the movies Dragon Box comes out in the US anyway.

DBZfan29 · Post by **DBZfan29** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:16 pm

I know this isn't what you're looking for, but a while back I made a side-by-side moving comparison of the original FUNimation and Dragon Box version of DBZ movie 13. It's been uploaded on YouTube, and since then it's had a lot of controversial things said on the page...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ze54-PwAIYE

Shadow-Link · Post by **Shadow-Link** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:27 pm

Here are my caps, made from movie 8

Dragon Box --> Double Feature

Greenman · Post by **Greenman** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:55 pm

Shadow-Link wrote:Here are my caps, made from movie 8

Dragon Box --> Double Feature

*screen caps*

Really bright. But I'm glad the framing is mostly the same.

Nice screen caps.

Captain Awesome · Post by **Captain Awesome** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:22 pm

DemonRin wrote: Also, I haven't seen anything on the Blu-ray releases, were they any good?

I've been meaning to do a mini-dissection for a while since not many people here seem to own the Blu-Ray releases or have a BD drive in their PC. They are a step up from the DVD double features, however the extra clarity makes all of the damage in FUNimation's film masters even more apparent than it was before.

The Trunks and Bardock specials (presumably due to being telecined from a 16mm source instead 35mm like the movies) look especially bad though.

Armymanis · Post by **Armymanis** » Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:46 pm

I am definatly waiting for the people at Funimation to make the Dragonbox: Movies like they have been doing with the TV Series. I have hardly seen a lot of movies that DBZ made. I am missing out on so much! Can't wait until the Dragonbox: Movies set comes out

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