It's called plot convenience.mystic trunks wrote:I 'm still confused how he repeatedly survived exploding planets but not the Spirit Bomb.
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Do you think the genki-dama had more power/energy than an exploding planet the size of Earth? I think it did because I can imagine that genki-dama destroying Earth, especially with SSJ/2 Goku behind it.
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Well in my opinion, ki explosions can be contained.
By this I mean that a ki explosion can have enough power to destroy a planet but not destroy it, because its destrutive power is concentrated in the immediate proximity of whatever it hits. A kind of implosion instead of a explosion.
Therefore the Spirit Bomb released its awesome power in top of kid buu and the immediate proximity but its power didn`t spread. Kind of a implosion.
And thats how I think all giant ki blasts, which aren`t meant to destroy the planet, work, because ki also follows the will of the user to a certain extent.
By this I mean that a ki explosion can have enough power to destroy a planet but not destroy it, because its destrutive power is concentrated in the immediate proximity of whatever it hits. A kind of implosion instead of a explosion.
Therefore the Spirit Bomb released its awesome power in top of kid buu and the immediate proximity but its power didn`t spread. Kind of a implosion.
And thats how I think all giant ki blasts, which aren`t meant to destroy the planet, work, because ki also follows the will of the user to a certain extent.
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Oh right I see, and I also remember that the genki-dama didn't actually explode on kid buu, it sort of... I don't know how to put it... buu sort of dissolved into it and the genki dama flew off into space. You know what I mean, and it probably got unstable and exploded later like most ki blasts do, like Vegeta' Final Flash.
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Yeah, just like the Final Flash Vegeta used against Cell.rereboy wrote:Well in my opinion, ki explosions can be contained.
By this I mean that a ki explosion can have enough power to destroy a planet but not destroy it, because its destrutive power is concentrated in the immediate proximity of whatever it hits. A kind of implosion instead of a explosion.
Therefore the Spirit Bomb released its awesome power in top of kid buu and the immediate proximity but its power didn`t spread. Kind of a implosion.
And thats how I think all giant ki blasts, which aren`t meant to destroy the planet, work, because ki also follows the will of the user to a certain extent.
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One of the reasons I enjoyed Buu so much is because he made no sense at all. Imagine that, nonsense in a gag manga.mystic trunks wrote:1) He is pink
2) In the dub he sounds like an f'n baby
3) He regenerates (like the villain in the saga before him)
4) He copies people's moves (like the villain in the saga before him. What happened to originality?)
5) Majin Buu makes it damn near impossible to tell how much stronger the Z fighters have gotten. Think about it - everyone kicked his ass from the very start. Vegeta kicked his ass, Goku kicked his ass, Gotenks kicked his ass, Gohan kicked his ass... but he could regenerate so it seems that he wasn't even that strong, it's just that he was made of gelatin and could bounce back from everything. The Buu saga is like watching flying Looney Toons battle it out.
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OK, I'm tired of this excuse. Yes, DB started as a gag manga, but that was over around the 21st Budokai. After what, eight years and about as many serious storylines Dragonball was no longer a gag manga.Raki wrote:Imagine that, nonsense in a gag manga.
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Yes, but in the Buu saga it went back to its roots .Rocketman wrote:OK, I'm tired of this excuse. Yes, DB started as a gag manga, but that was over around the 21st Budokai. After what, eight years and about as many serious storylines Dragonball was no longer a gag manga.Raki wrote:Imagine that, nonsense in a gag manga.
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Its roots sucked. Dragonball only became the unstoppable juggernaut AFTER it moved away from its dark gag-manga past.Drayenko wrote:Yes, but in the Buu saga it went back to its roots .
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Yeah, it was darkier and edgier before . . . in a kooky kind of way. ; )Rocketman wrote:Its roots sucked. Dragonball only became the unstoppable juggernaut AFTER it moved away from its dark gag-manga past.Drayenko wrote:Yes, but in the Buu saga it went back to its roots .
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They say that in the dub? In the original Goku says that he wasn't holding back for Vegeta's benefit and that he was going all out, but Buu wasn't giving him a chance to gather enough ki to destroy him. That's when Vegeta steps in to buy Goku some time.LilKokuLink wrote:But what's annoying is in the dub Goku said he was holding back so Vegeta could have a go, resulting in wasting energy... what a dunce.
Not really. I'm not sure why people think it's inconsistent. Vegetto showed with a kiai type blast that it's possible to wipe Buu out without leaving a trace. No pink goo, no smoke, no regenerate. The narrator even says that Buu was finally destroyed because 'every cell of him was obliterated'.Piccolo Daimao wrote:It's called plot convenience.mystic trunks wrote:I 'm still confused how he repeatedly survived exploding planets but not the Spirit Bomb.
I'm not sure what counts as a 'cell' when talking about Buu... I mean, he's a monster genie that can live as just smoke. But yeah.
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Perhaps you may think so, but coming full circle was the perfect way to avoid becoming saturated with the Artificial Human/Freeza arc style that, frankly, even though it was awesome, just didn't feel DBish enough for me.Rocketman wrote:Its roots sucked. Dragonball only became the unstoppable juggernaut AFTER it moved away from its dark gag-manga past.Drayenko wrote:Yes, but in the Buu saga it went back to its roots .
Also let us not forget which of the two halves gets better reviews. Is it the lighthearted, funny(for the most part) half, or the edgy, action-saturated half?
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Uhhh...the answer here might not be as one-sided as you might be thinking.IncompetentOverlord wrote:Also let us not forget which of the two halves gets better reviews. Is it the lighthearted, funny(for the most part) half, or the edgy, action-saturated half?
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Two halves? The slapstick only lasts about 25 chapters out of 519. I wouldn't split the series into "not-Z" and "Z" as to define when the gag manga period ended. Honestly, the real era of Dragon Ball as a silly gag manga ended when the original Dragon Ball hunt did. Sure, there's jokes, and funny moments after that but that does not a gag manga make.
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I would say the gags last through the tournament. You know Krillin not having a nose and all.Sprite Satan wrote:Two halves? The slapstick only lasts about 25 chapters out of 519. I wouldn't split the series into "not-Z" and "Z" as to define when the gag manga period ended. Honestly, the real era of Dragon Ball as a silly gag manga ended when the original Dragon Ball hunt did. Sure, there's jokes, and funny moments after that but that does not a gag manga make.
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...the edgy, action part, since it gets all the games, remakes, movies, love, and groupies?IncompetentOverlord wrote:Also let us not forget which of the two halves gets better reviews. Is it the lighthearted, funny(for the most part) half, or the edgy, action-saturated half?
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Alright, I'll give you the entire 21st Tournament. 53 chapters. That's still around 10% of the entire series.Khalid Shahin wrote:I would say the gags last through the tournament. You know Krillin not having a nose and all.
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Considering just about every single name was a pun on something, in that alone allowed the manga to keep its gag roots even though serious shit was happening.Rocketman wrote:OK, I'm tired of this excuse. Yes, DB started as a gag manga, but that was over around the 21st Budokai. After what, eight years and about as many serious storylines Dragonball was no longer a gag manga.Raki wrote:Imagine that, nonsense in a gag manga.
The series doesn't start with the arrival of Raditz. Stop being lazy and watch Dragonball.
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•Tao Pai Pai kills people with his tongue and rides on a pole.Sprite Satan wrote:Alright, I'll give you the entire 21st Tournament. 53 chapters. That's still around 10% of the entire series.Khalid Shahin wrote:I would say the gags last through the tournament. You know Krillin not having a nose and all.
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There's a difference between a manga having gags and a manga being a "gag manga"; but yeah, the line gets blurred a bit in places.
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