DBZ Remastered Movies in 4:3 and better contrast !

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DBZ Remastered Movies in 4:3 and better contrast !

Post by Treklin » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:26 pm

Hi guys,

I have noticed on the product description sites for the remastered DBZ movies over amazon.com, that they are showing
us completely different screenshots and in much better contrast and this in 1:1,20 aspect ratio. We realize that the
DBZ Remastered Movies has a aspect ratio of 1:1,78 and presented us in 16:9 format.

Now, why Funimation has brought us a bad remastered release if they had release the remastered movies in 4:3 and better
quality/contrast ???

2 comparison shots:

Blu-ray screenshot (downsized) / AR: 1:1,78 / 16:9 format

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Amazon.com screenshot / AR: 1:1,20 / ??? format

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and here an other:

Screenshot from the DVD (downsized) / AR: 1:1,78 / 16:9 format

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amazon.com screenshot / AR: 1:1,20 / ??? format

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you can see that the screenshots from amazon has more contrast (which you can see if u compare the darker/brighter
parts) but a little more grain/dirt/scrathes ...

The fact is that the master for the DBZ movies are in 1:1,20 that means you can see much more, because normally we
all saw the movies in 4:3 format thats equal to the 1:1,33 aspect ratio.

Btw. which format is equal to 1:1,20 ? 5:4 is 1:1,25 ... Is someone expert in this case ?

But nevertheless its such a big shame these how VegettoEX says "faux" remastered 16:9 dbz movies, they could released it in 4:3 and better contrast!

Here are the links for more incredible good screenshots that you`ve never seen...

Dragon Ball Z Double Feature - The History of Trunks / Bardock the Father of Goku (Steelbook) - no screenshots available
Dragon Ball Z Double Feature: Dead Zone / World's Strongest (Steelbook)
Dragon Ball Z Double Feature: Tree of Might / Lord Slug (Steelbook)
Dragon Ball Z: Coolers Revenge / The Return of Cooler (Double Feature) (Steelbook)
DragonBall Z: Super Android 13/Bojack Unbound (Double Feature) (Steelbook)
Dragon Ball Z: Fusion Reborn / Wrath of the Dragon (Double Feature)

I hope that Funi brings us the "true" remastered DBZ Movies and series in 4:3 and better image quality!!!
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Post by MarcFBR » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:32 pm

Those appear to be scans of someones movie cels. Someone uploaded them as customer photos. Amazon seems to already be removing them, as they aren't relevant to the product.
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Post by Amigo Ten » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:47 pm

The movies aren't really meant to be 4:3 anyway. They appear to have been produced that way, but they were meant for theatrical release, and thus meant to be shown in 16:9. That's what I gather anyway.

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Post by Kaboom » Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:12 pm

Those are some quite badass cel scans, though. Think I have a new avatar to try out...
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Post by Smooth Criminal » Sat Mar 13, 2010 12:19 am

Wow, the image quality on those pictures is fucking incredible.

How would someone obtain all of those various cels, with the correct backdrops, to scan in as a complete image? That doesn't make much sense to me-- sounds impossible.

Maybe these actually come directly from FUNimation themselves.

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Post by LilKokuLink » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:25 am

I found some really good screenshots on Amazon too, they're amazing in my opinion. Especially that second one...

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I have a few others too somewhere.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:32 pm

They aren't cel scans. Those images were also on the back of the steel book cases.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:35 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:They aren't cel scans. Those images were also on the back of the steel book cases.
That doesn't mean that they aren't cels that FUNimation has.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:28 pm

LilKoku, where did you find those screencaps on Amazon? I can't find them anywhere.
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Post by LilKokuLink » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:45 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:LilKoku, where did you find those screencaps on Amazon? I can't find them anywhere.
They're in what is called "Amazon's DragonBall store", there is a seperate one for each series. The screenshots are named as scenes. Here are the links, just scroll somewhere down to the bottom to find the screen caps.

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DragonBall GT (I don't think there are any screen caps for this one).
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Post by Budogenkai » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:52 pm

I wish Kai looked liked that. :?
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:00 pm

I think these images are indeed cels that Funi has in possession. Which would add more weight to everything Kei17 has been saying about how the Dragon Box colors may be accurate to the master that was used, but not to how they originally looked.
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Post by Taku128 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:54 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:I think these images are indeed cels that Funi has in possession. Which would add more weight to everything Kei17 has been saying about how the Dragon Box colors may be accurate to the master that was used, but not to how they originally looked.
The 16:9 shots are from FUNi's Blu-ray release, not the Dragon Box.
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Post by jjgp1112 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:01 pm

I know that. But the Dragon Box colors for those movies look very different from the images on Amazon. Just go to Myfavoritegames, where they have Dragon Box screencaps for every DBZ movie.
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Post by Piccolo Daimaoh » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:14 pm

Damn, that SS Goku one looks amazing!

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Post by Chuquita » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:24 am

I like how sharp the images look in those cels. *_*
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Post by Treklin » Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:08 am

jjgp1112 wrote:I know that. But the Dragon Box colors for those movies look very different from the images on Amazon. Just go to Myfavoritegames, where they have Dragon Box screencaps for every DBZ movie.
screenshot from the remastered dbz movie (forget the number) on blu-ray (downsized)

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screenshot from the dragonbox z movie:

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i am sorry they are not exactly the same frame but you can see the sharpness and vivid colors in the remastered dbz
not to mention how would look the remastered screencap in 5:4 i mean in 1:1,20 ar !!!

we are waiting for the real ultimate uncut and full-fullscreen dbz release !!!
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Post by BobZ » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:36 am

I do consider these releases to be the only remastered sets FUNimation has really remastered.
I've seen them in motion and they look gorgeous! That is why I'd rather buy them than Dragon Box The Movies (if FUNi releases them too).

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Post by jjgp1112 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:12 pm

One thing that has me confused is how come those particular scans of the cels look so good, yet the cel scans that FUNi uses in their booklets as well as what Toei uses in the Daizenshuu look closer to a HQ Dragon Box screencap (for quality, not colors)? Hell, how come the Dragon Box doesn't look as good? Is it because of the quality of the cameras at the time? Or if that's simply how it will look like when filmed and printed to a certain format (and then encoded to DVDs). If the former is the case, then would DBZ probably look like that if it were done today?
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