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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be realesed?

Post by Greenman » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:11 am

Kakarotto wrote:So as of now Funimation does not have the two specials in Dragon Box quality?
FUNimation may have them, but they haven't specifically announced that they have them yet. I think they probably will include them somewhere. I don't see FUNi buying the rights to every Z episode and movie, yet forgetting about the TV specials.

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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be released?

Post by .:PoetikaL:. » Fri Oct 01, 2010 8:18 am

Since I'm the assuming type, I would "assume" the Bardock and Trunks TV specials would be included considering that they were aired on TV in line with the normal 291 episodes, and since FUNimation announced they have received all episodes of DBZ and the 13 Movies in Dragon Box quality, they would be in with the episodes portion.
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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be released?

Post by GizmoKSX » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:51 pm

Regarding the specials, the FUNi Dragon Boxes already increased the number of episodes per disc compared to the Japanese release to make it more economical. We have seven episodes per disc so far, and with 291 episodes, that's going to put only four episodes on the final disc. The TV specials are roughly double the length of a normal episode. It wouldn't be a big surprise to see both specials added to the last disc; it'd essentially be putting 8 episodes on the disc.

Now, that also means squeezing about 3.5 hours of video on the DVD. Personally, I'd rather spend a little more to have an extra disc so compression artifacts don't start to creep in, even if it does increase the cost of the last set just a few bucks. Those of us buying the final set are completists anyway, so it's not like we'd be offended if the price goes up slightly.

So, how would they fill the available time on the last disc of regular episodes? Either A) They don't, and it's just four episodes. B) They throw the specials on as I'm theorizing. C) A few episodes from the other discs are shifted over, so we have a few discs with 6 episodes and slightly higher video bitrates. D) Some other extras.

Now, that's assuming that FUNi will be rereleasing the specials. They love putting out Dragon Ball releases, so if they have them, they're not going to sit on them.
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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be released?

Post by Minigt » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:23 pm

I just feel blessed to have the first 4 box sets and I am praying they will finish the series. If the movies are released that will be a massive bonus.
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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be released?

Post by Innagadadavida » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:27 am

FUNimation will release the Dragon Box movies. They will include a new English dub with their Dragon Ball Z Kai cast, and put ads as such on Nicktoons and CW. Then they will also include the uncut Ocean dub with the original score, their original dub with their redone score, and of course the Japanese track with English subtitles. They will be released one movie per disc, at $10 for DVD and $15 for Blu-Ray, in sequential order starting with Dragon Ball movie 1. They will release the TV Specials and video game/anniversary specials in the same line.

And when you line up the spines, it's a giant picture of Toriyama giving you the finger.

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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be released?

Post by Minigt » Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:38 am

Innagadadavida wrote:
And when you line up the spines, it's a giant picture of Toriyama giving you the finger.
Teehhee. Funniest thing of the day right there.
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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be released?

Post by TonyTheTiger » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:57 pm

The Japanese movie box is only 8 discs and that includes the three Dragon Ball movies and the Anniversary Special. So a collection of just the 13 DBZ movies and possibly the two TV specials should be easy enough to fit into a single set. Doing it any other way would be madness.

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Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:58 pm

TonyTheTiger wrote:The Japanese movie box is only 8 discs and that includes the three Dragon Ball movies and the Anniversary Special. So a collection of just the 13 DBZ movies and possibly the two TV specials should be easy enough to fit into a single set. Doing it any other way would be madness.
And the 8th disc didn't even have anything in it except the Dragon Ball 10th Anniversary Movie.

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Post by Great Saiyaman I » Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:07 pm

I hope it's announced soon. I only bought 3 double features since the Coola one went out of stock, and I'm hoping the Box comes out before I give in.
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Post by Jaruka » Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:53 pm

Does anyone have any clue whether they will attempt to acquire the rights for Dragonball and GT DragonBoxes?
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Post by .:PoetikaL:. » Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:59 pm

Jaruka wrote:Does anyone have any clue whether they will attempt to acquire the rights for Dragonball and GT DragonBoxes?
No one knows, but they might consider obtaining the rights if they feel like the domestic Dragon Boxes are selling well. By the looks of it, they're selling really well to the point of Dragon Box Vol. 2 being extremely hard to find.
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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be released?

Post by Daimo-Rukiri » Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:42 am

Box 2/3 holds a lot of peoples favorite episodes, including mine^^
Knowing FUNi, they might want to get DB/GTs Dragon Box licensed so they have the special(movie for funi) and the DB movies so they can release the MOVIE box properly.


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Post by Sun-Wukong » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:33 pm

My only concern with the TV specials being lumped in with the movies is if they're cropped the same way the movies are. The movies were animated with cropping in mind, but the specials weren't. I've watched Bardock: Father of Goku on the double feature set and it just looks weird in 16:9, the same way the show does. Now if they decide to be awesome and do the entire movie box in 4:3, well that would just be fantastic but I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be released?

Post by Castor Troy » Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:41 pm

FUNi will find some way to milk it. My predicition will be all 13 of the Z movies in 2 boxsets with 1 movie per disc.

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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be released?

Post by OutlawTorn » Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:45 pm

Sun-Wukong wrote:My only concern with the TV specials being lumped in with the movies is if they're cropped the same way the movies are.
I don't see why they would, as they have gone out of their way to not change a thing with the Dragon Box releases. The specials were meant to be seen in 4:3, so regardless of which box they end up being released on, they will be 4:3.
Now if they decide to be awesome and do the entire movie box in 4:3, well that would just be fantastic but I'm not holding my breath.
But the movies were not intended to be viewed in 4:3, so they would be released in their proper 16:9 aspect ratio. Presenting a movie intended for widescreen in 4:3 is just as wrong as presenting a 4:3 show in widescreen.

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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be released?

Post by TonyTheTiger » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:14 am

OutlawTorn wrote:But the movies were not intended to be viewed in 4:3, so they would be released in their proper 16:9 aspect ratio. Presenting a movie intended for widescreen in 4:3 is just as wrong as presenting a 4:3 show in widescreen.
When it comes to animation that's...debatable. With the rare exception of the few scenes in movie 3 where the the frame is incomplete, it's not as easy to argue that something intentionally painted on the cel wasn't supposed to be there or, at the very least, isn't worth seeing. It's certainly a good thing to have the movies available in both aspect ratios.

You can see the "well...yeah...but animation is different" at work in Don Bluth films and some DCAU stuff like Justice League and Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker.

It's certainly not the same thing as the orange brick fiasco. In fact, it's pretty much the exact opposite.

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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be released?

Post by GizmoKSX » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:42 am

TonyTheTiger wrote: When it comes to animation that's...debatable. With the rare exception of the few scenes in movie 3 where the the frame is incomplete, it's not as easy to argue that something intentionally painted on the cel wasn't supposed to be there or, at the very least, isn't worth seeing. It's certainly a good thing to have the movies available in both aspect ratios.
It comes down to the director's intent, which isn't always simple to figure out. Unlike live-action movies that are open-matted, you won't be seeing stray boom mics. Just, as you mentioned, the occasional incomplete cel, which would suggest that 16:9 was the target ratio for that particular film.
But even some live-action films shot on Super 35, like Terminator 2: Judgment Day, are given alternate framing jobs for widescreen and 4:3 releases, which can leave the director's intent a bit nebulous.

Since FUNi is sticking close to Toei's releases, if and when we see the TV specials and movies, they should be in 4:3 and matted 16:9, respectively. But I'm curious, since the US and Japanese Dragon Boxes have slightly different framing, would FUNi be acquiring pre-matted prints of the movies, or doing the matting themselves?
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Re: How will Funimation's Dragon Box of the movies be released?

Post by TonyTheTiger » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:30 am

Yeah, obviously the Dragon Box footage should remain as is. I don't think anybody wants to see FUNi start fiddling with the footage again. But when it comes to the "right" aspect ratio for animated features it's sometimes unclear. Like you said, sometimes even live action is blurry. Stanley Kubrick was notorious for saying that the 4:3 versions of his movies are the "true" versions which tends to send videophiles into convulsions. It's why I'm glad to have the movie singles. Even if the widescreen matting is the "proper" aspect ratio, it's nice to have access to 4:3 versions.

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