Unpopular DB opinions

[supersaiyanZero]

Zamasu/Black was one of the most underveloped, underwhelming villains the series has had to date.

[SupremeKai25]

Zamasu/Black was one of the most underveloped, underwhelming villains the series has had to date.

You're not exactly wrong about the 'underveloped' part. It would've been nice if Merged Zamasu had been around for a few more episodes, although i adored his presence in the story nonetheless.

[Noah]

Can't you people just decide?

Zamasu is not only a better villain then Cell and Buu, he's one of the best the franchise ever had.

Zamasu/Black was one of the most underveloped, underwhelming villains the series has had to date.

But anyway, supersaiyanZero, I agree if you're referring to to the manga, because I think their anime counterparts were good developed.

[MR.Mark]

Zamasu/Black was one of the most underveloped, underwhelming villains the series has had to date.

You're not exactly wrong about the 'underveloped' part. It would've been nice if Merged Zamasu had been around for a few more episodes, although i adored his presence in the story nonetheless.

Whether that's true or not, some development is better than none. Most big bads that are killed in DB before moving on to the next have none.

Whether you like his personality or not, Zamasu was essentially a misguided but good being at first, that then descended into madness. That's more than your usual DB villain.

[Freeza9000]

Can't you people just decide?

Zamasu is not only a better villain then Cell and Buu, he's one of the best the franchise ever had.

Zamasu/Black was one of the most underveloped, underwhelming villains the series has had to date.

The duality of man

[ABED]

Most big bads that are killed in DB before moving on to the next have none.

Such as?

[MR.Mark]

Most big bads that are killed in DB before moving on to the next have none.

Such as?

Freeza used to be one until Super changed that. Cell was just another mustache twirler once he became perfect and was just an obstacle to be killed. Majin Buu in his true form is just chaos, so another "Final Boss".

Going further back, Tao Pai Pai was just a super strong assassin that Goku killed, only to be revived to show how strong Tenshinhan is, this idea was later recycled by Toriyama with Freeza and Trunks.

Even Vegeta didn't really start to get development until the majority of the Buu arc. Him and Nappa started off as two big bads that we knew nothing about other than there strong assholes from space and the same race as Goku.

[ABED]

Freeza has no development? He considers himself a refined gentleman, but underneath is a psychotic sadist who in spite of being FAR stronger than just about everyone still has a fear of being overthrown.

Tao Pai Pai was not a big bad. He was a memorable antagonist, but not the big bad of the Red Ribbon Army arc.

Vegeta was well defined pretty much from the jump. The only thing we don't get from the start is that he a prince, but we do get that Vegeta is a smug elitist who has no time for people he considers useless. That is a personality. I don't think you are looking close enough if all you saw was too strong guys.

What do you consider development?

[SupremeKai25]

Zamasu/Black was one of the most underveloped, underwhelming villains the series has had to date.

You're not exactly wrong about the 'underveloped' part. It would've been nice if Merged Zamasu had been around for a few more episodes, although i adored his presence in the story nonetheless.

Whether that's true or not, some development is better than none. Most big bads that are killed in DB before moving on to the next have none.

Whether you like his personality or not, Zamasu was essentially a misguided but good being at first, that then descended into madness. That's more than your usual DB villain.

I know very well Zamasu's personality and character development, which i deem wonderfully and masterfully done. Plus, as you mentioned, he is one-of-a-kind villain in Dragon Ball, as most antagonists are evil for the sake of being evil.

Perhaps, 'underdeveloped' is not the correct term to use, since i do believe Zamasu's ideals were fleshed-out very well throughout the arc and i felt very attached to the character.

[ABED]

The only one who I think is evil for the sake of being evil is Piccolo. If we include GT, then the Evil Dragons. Characters like Cell and Freeza don't think of what they do in moral terms. It's simply about power.

[Ripper 30]

The only one who I think is evil for the sake of being evil is Piccolo. If we include GT, then the Evil Dragons. Characters like Cell and Freeza don't think of what they do in moral terms. It's simply about power.

what about Super Boo and Kid Boo?

[ABED]

He doesn't have any viewpoint. He's just a creature bent on destruction because that was what he is created for. He's neither good nor evil. I'm going with the original origin, not the retconned origin.

[mahakaishin1991]

He doesn't have any viewpoint. He's just a creature bent on destruction because that was what he is created for. He's neither good nor evil. I'm going with the original origin, not the retconned origin.

he wasnt really created though. He was always a rampaging eldritch abomination though, thats how I see him

[mahakaishin1991]

unpopular opinions

1. Saiyans as a whole have been underutilized: look at how superman has used kryptons technology, history, enemies etc. to make new arcs, I feel theres more that can be done with the race the main hero comes from, and raditz particularly was done no justice.

2. The fact there isnt a war for control of the universe started between rival factions with king kold and freeza gone baffles me.

3. Tien's alien origins are not utlized and this infuriates me

[ABED]

He doesn't have any viewpoint. He's just a creature bent on destruction because that was what he is created for. He's neither good nor evil. I'm going with the original origin, not the retconned origin.

he wasnt really created though. He was always a rampaging eldritch abomination though, thats how I see him

He was created. The manga originally said he was created.

1. Saiyans as a whole have been underutilized: look at how superman has used kryptons technology, history, enemies etc. to make new arcs, I feel theres more that can be done with the race the main hero comes from, and raditz particularly was done no justice.

2. The fact there isnt a war for control of the universe started between rival factions with king kold and freeza gone baffles me.

3. Tien's alien origins are not utlized and this infuriates me

1. Raditz's tenure while short, was very memorable.
2. Even if there was, why would it impact Earth?
3. Why would that infuriate you? It's not part of the original manga.

[Omniboy]

He doesn't have any viewpoint. He's just a creature bent on destruction because that was what he is created for. He's neither good nor evil. I'm going with the original origin, not the retconned origin.

he wasnt really created though. He was always a rampaging eldritch abomination though, thats how I see him

He was created. The manga originally said he was created.

Actually Toriyama retconned it a fews years ago in an interview.

How did Bibbidi make Majin Boo? What process was there, what were Boo’s ingredients, etc…

Though in the manga Kaiōshin said that Bibbidi made him, the truth is that one called “Boo” was not actually created by Bididi, but has existed since time immemorial. He cycled between rampages and long hibernation. During numerous iterations of this cycle, he absorbed the evil elements of mankind, becoming steadily more violent. Bibbidi merely knew the means of calling Boo from out of his long slumber. Since the current Boo is a slightly different life-form due to the changes brought about when the evil Boo was expelled, it’s not known whether he’ll still go into long hibernation.

[Omniboy]

Double post

[ABED]

Magic is pure bullcrap. What possible explanation beyond them saying they created Buu do you want? They explicitly stated that they created Majin Buu. Whether you like that explanation isn't relevant, it's what the story says happened.

truth is that one called “Boo” was not actually created by Bididi, but has existed since time immemorial.

I said from the outset that I'm disregarding statements made by Toriyama after the fact. In the manga, everyone says Bibidi CREATED Buu.

[Omniboy]

Magic is pure bullcrap. What possible explanation beyond them saying they created Buu do you want? They explicitly stated that they created Majin Buu. Whether you like that explanation isn't relevant, it's what the story says happened.

truth is that one called “Boo” was not actually created by Bididi, but has existed since time immemorial.

I said from the outset that I'm disregarding statements made by Toriyama after the fact. In the manga, everyone says Bibidi CREATED Buu.

My apologies. Didn't see that.

[ABED]

My statement may have come off as harsher than I intended.