Unpopular DB opinions

[Demon Prince Piccolo]

Krillin is one of the best characters in the franchise. That may not be an unpopular sentiment among hardcore fans here, but unfortunately a large portion of the fan base thinks he's a joke just because he's died a lot.

I'd go as far to say Krillin is a Top 5 character, if not higher.

[WittyUsername]

Krillin is one of the best characters in the franchise. That may not be an unpopular sentiment among hardcore fans here, but unfortunately a large portion of the fan base thinks he's a joke just because he's died a lot.

I'd go as far to say Krillin is a Top 5 character, if not higher.

I get the impression that the Kuririn jokes have mostly died down these days. Yamcha jokes seem a lot more common.

[Matches Malone]

A large portion of the fan base thinks he's a joke just because he's died a lot.

This never made sense to me, as even Goku died twice in the manga, 3 if you count GT. Vegeta has died twice as well, same as Piccolo. Krillin is definitely a favorite of mine. What he lacks in power he more than makes up for it in personality and character development.

[Scsigs]

A large portion of the fan base thinks he's a joke just because he's died a lot.

This never made sense to me, as even Goku died twice in the manga, 3 if you count GT. Vegeta has died twice as well, same as Piccolo. Krillin is definitely a favorite of mine. What he lacks in power he more than makes up for it in personality and character development.

Goku never died in GT, what? Piccolo did, but not Goku. If you're talking about when he went off with Shenron, that's not him dying. That's him going off with the dragon & possibly extending his lifespan.

[Matches Malone]

Goku never died in GT, what? Piccolo did, but not Goku. If you're talking about when he went off with Shenron, that's not him dying. That's him going off with the dragon & possibly extending his lifespan.

Nozawa said in an interview (you can find it on the sire here in the translation section) that Goku indeed died, probably after being hit by Omega's attack.

[Scsigs]

Goku never died in GT, what? Piccolo did, but not Goku. If you're talking about when he went off with Shenron, that's not him dying. That's him going off with the dragon & possibly extending his lifespan.

Nozawa said in an interview (you can find it on the sire here in the translation section) that Goku indeed died, probably after being hit by Omega's attack.

Unless one of the show's writers, showrunners, producers, or the director of the episode come out & say that, you shouldn't take it as fact. Nozawa's the voice of Goku & most of his male relatives & doppelgängers, but she doesn't, nor has she ever, made any decisions behind the creative choices in DB. She's never been a script writer, director, producer, or showrunner of any of the shows or movies. I'm more willing to believe that was her own personal rationalization or head canon of what happened, but that's not what was shown in the show. You can say that it's reminiscent of Goku dying, as that's what that ending was trying to evoke to give the franchise & overall story a definitive endpoint, but that's not what happened. In fact, it's left up in the air as to what definitively happened, so it's not set in stone within the series itself, which is fine.

[Matches Malone]

Nozawa's the voice of Goku & most of his male relatives & doppelgängers, but she doesn't, nor has she ever, made any decisions behind the creative choices in DB.

She may not have written it, but I think it's reasonable to say that someone as connected to Goku as she was would be in the know of what was going on.

[Scsigs]

Nozawa's the voice of Goku & most of his male relatives & doppelgängers, but she doesn't, nor has she ever, made any decisions behind the creative choices in DB.

She may not have written it, but I think it's reasonable to say that someone as connected to Goku as she was would be in the know of what was going on.

I mean, the actor behind a character is going to have a connection to them, yes, but that's not a definitive way of judging what was going on by the people writing the character. I could cite Sean Schemmel, who's been playing the character for over 20 years in English, & he's apparently had problems with Goku's characterization in Super, which most of us have because Goku was flanderized in the worst ways possible, but no one here would take that seriously for one reason or another. Unless if Nozawa was citing anything she was told when the voice director was directing her, or by the writers of the series or episode, or the showrunner, I doubt she has a definitive answer. Her takes, while they can be interesting or insightful for how she interprets the things in the franchise, shouldn't be taken as fact unless she cites someone who's worked on the material telling her stuff as the reason why she thinks them.

[WittyUsername]

A large portion of the fan base thinks he's a joke just because he's died a lot.

This never made sense to me, as even Goku died twice in the manga, 3 if you count GT. Vegeta has died twice as well, same as Piccolo. Krillin is definitely a favorite of mine. What he lacks in power he more than makes up for it in personality and character development.

Counting GT, Kuririn died a total of four times. That is still more than any other character.

[TobyS]

A large portion of the fan base thinks he's a joke just because he's died a lot.

This never made sense to me, as even Goku died twice in the manga, 3 if you count GT. Vegeta has died twice as well, same as Piccolo. Krillin is definitely a favorite of mine. What he lacks in power he more than makes up for it in personality and character development.

Counting GT, Kuririn died a total of four times. That is still more than any other character.

I mean it's still weird.

Tambourine-death was before it was cliche. He then avoids dying thanks to Yamcha in the saiyan saga.

His death versus Freeza was because of the massive power disparity and it's a whole big deal that he's died once already, you don't expect it given that Toriyama had him avoid death so far probably because of the whole "you can't come back twice thing"

The third death was like a collective death with everyone, I feel like that's not on him in any meaningful way.

And I don't count GT, why would I. Not only is it non canon It was cheap AF that they brought him out of obscurity literally to kill him. GT is so cynical with it's rare deployment of cooler OG characters and continuity that's why the much lauded ending rings hollow to me.

The Godly powerful main character gets 2 and a million near misses.

3 Canon deaths in a long running series where people regularly put their lives in danger. I just never got why such a big deal was made of it.

[ArmenianPepsi]

Krillin is one of the best characters in the franchise. That may not be an unpopular sentiment among hardcore fans here, but unfortunately a large portion of the fan base thinks he's a joke just because he's died a lot.

I'd go as far to say Krillin is a Top 5 character, if not higher.

Standing up for my man Krillin. Big respect.

[ABED]

I love Kuririn, but he's usually canon fodder. All of Goku's deaths were him going out like a champ. Kuririn's deaths were pretty much just used to motivate the hero.

[Demon Prince Piccolo]

I love Kuririn, but he's usually canon fodder. All of Goku's deaths were him going out like a champ. Kuririn's deaths were pretty much just used to motivate the hero.

That's true, but I still say that is more of a reflection of the writing than on Krillin's character.

[Demon Prince Piccolo]

Krillin is one of the best characters in the franchise. That may not be an unpopular sentiment among hardcore fans here, but unfortunately a large portion of the fan base thinks he's a joke just because he's died a lot.

I'd go as far to say Krillin is a Top 5 character, if not higher.

I get the impression that the Kuririn jokes have mostly died down these days. Yamcha jokes seem a lot more common.

Maybe so, but I don't see the character get much love in the broader fanbase (none of the humans or even Piccolo do at this point). You're right about Yamcha jokes being more common, though. Yamcha's always had the misfortune of being the character designed to always be beaten by a stronger opponent. The Dragon Ball Super anime didn't help by having him get snubbed for the TOP.

[ABED]

I love Kuririn, but he's usually canon fodder. All of Goku's deaths were him going out like a champ. Kuririn's deaths were pretty much just used to motivate the hero.

That's true, but I still say that is more of a reflection of the writing than on Krillin's character.

I'm not sure what you mean. Kuririn's character is characterized through the writing.

[Demon Prince Piccolo]

I love Kuririn, but he's usually canon fodder. All of Goku's deaths were him going out like a champ. Kuririn's deaths were pretty much just used to motivate the hero.

That's true, but I still say that is more of a reflection of the writing than on Krillin's character.

I'm not sure what you mean. Kuririn's character is characterized through the writing.

Right...and his deaths weren't so much a reflection on his character as on the plot. I'm not sure what you mean....

[Demon Prince Piccolo]

I love Kuririn, but he's usually canon fodder. All of Goku's deaths were him going out like a champ. Kuririn's deaths were pretty much just used to motivate the hero.

That's true, but I still say that is more of a reflection of the writing than on Krillin's character.

I'm not sure what you mean. Kuririn's character is characterized through the writing.

Right...and his deaths weren't so much a reflection on his character as on the plot. I guess I should have said "more of a reflection on the plot than on Krillin's character."

[ABED]

That's true, but I still say that is more of a reflection of the writing than on Krillin's character.

I'm not sure what you mean. Kuririn's character is characterized through the writing.

Right...and his deaths weren't so much a reflection on his character as on the plot. I guess I should have said "more of a reflection on the plot than on Krillin's character."

I would say it is a reflection on his character as he's not typically the one driving the plot. I love Kuririn, but I can see why some make fun of him for dying. It says a lot that writers keep using his death to motivate others to action.

[JewyB]

Has anyone said that the Great Saiyaman helmet is the best yet?

I see a lot of hate for it and everyone loves bandanna Saiyaman but, i dont, i think it looks awful, the helmet though, the helmet is *chefs kiss*

[WittyUsername]

Has anyone said that the Great Saiyaman helmet is the best yet?

I see a lot of hate for it and everyone loves bandanna Saiyaman but, i dont, i think it looks awful, the helmet though, the helmet is *chefs kiss*

The helmet fits with the aesthetic of Japanese superheroes, which the Great Saiyaman is a parody of.