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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by SSJGAffleck » Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:54 pm

I accept what they have done with Gohan in Super and GT and I really like what they did with Goten in GT.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by WittyUsername » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:24 pm

SSJGAffleck wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:54 pm
I accept what they have done with Gohan in Super and GT and I really like what they did with Goten in GT.
I don’t think I even know how to describe Goten’s character in GT.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:26 pm

WittyUsername wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:24 pm
SSJGAffleck wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:54 pm
I accept what they have done with Gohan in Super and GT and I really like what they did with Goten in GT.
I don’t think I even know how to describe Goten’s character in GT.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Alruneia » Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:45 pm

WittyUsername wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:24 pm
SSJGAffleck wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:54 pm
I accept what they have done with Gohan in Super and GT and I really like what they did with Goten in GT.
I don’t think I even know how to describe Goten’s character in GT.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MasenkoHA » Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:00 pm

WittyUsername wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:24 pm
SSJGAffleck wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:54 pm
I accept what they have done with Gohan in Super and GT and I really like what they did with Goten in GT.
I don’t think I even know how to describe Goten’s character in GT.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gligarman » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:25 pm

MasenkoHA wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:00 pm
WittyUsername wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:24 pm
SSJGAffleck wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:54 pm
I accept what they have done with Gohan in Super and GT and I really like what they did with Goten in GT.
I don’t think I even know how to describe Goten’s character in GT.
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He doesn't get much time in the Super manga, but in the anime I always figured him to be the normal one of the family that realizes that all of his relatives are insane.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dbzfan94 » Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:58 pm

MasenkoHA wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:00 pm
WittyUsername wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:24 pm
SSJGAffleck wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:54 pm
I accept what they have done with Gohan in Super and GT and I really like what they did with Goten in GT.
I don’t think I even know how to describe Goten’s character in GT.
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Not really. He went on, what, 2 dates with the same girl that he liked.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Jun 07, 2019 11:34 am

The thing to remember with GT Goten is that, while they basically made it his entire character trait, it wasn't made up for GT specifically. Goten at the end of the manga and the DBZ anime was also going on about having to miss a date due to training with Goku. Toei took that moment and made it his whole MO instead of making it just a part of his character, but the idea itself does still come from Toriyama originally.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:08 pm

I was just about to come in here and say that GT Goten is best Goten, but I guess I don't need to because we're already having a discussion about him.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Tai Lung » Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:35 pm

it depends how you see it ... I like it more goten gt because it is more original and he stop being a copy of kid goku however it is easy to realize that this version of goten is very limited ... because only one aspect of his personality in his side human but nothing of him as a warrior ... in the epilogue only that aspect of him is mentioned but it should be only a part and not all that is the character.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by sunsetshimmer » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:02 pm

SSJGAffleck wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:54 pm
I accept what they have done with Gohan in Super and GT and I really like what they did with Goten in GT.
GT/DBS Gohan >> DBZ Gohan (except for early Buu saga episodes)

GT Goten is the only version of this character that had ANY relevance in series as a character on his own and only series where he isn't kid Goku's clone.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:06 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:02 pm
SSJGAffleck wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:54 pm
I accept what they have done with Gohan in Super and GT and I really like what they did with Goten in GT.
GT/DBS Gohan >> DBZ Gohan (except for early Buu saga episodes)

GT Goten is the only version of this character that had ANY relevance in series as a character on his own and only series where he isn't kid Goku's clone.
Goten looked like Goku but their personalities were distinct. Goku was driven to be a great martial artist. It's what he lived for. Goten did it because he was good at it and it was fun, but he never struck me as motivated to be the best.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DestructoDisc » Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:03 am

Dbzfan94 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:58 pm
MasenkoHA wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:00 pm
WittyUsername wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:24 pm


I don’t think I even know how to describe Goten’s character in GT.
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Not really. He went on, what, 2 dates with the same girl that he liked.
Pan hinted in one episode that Goten went on multiple dates with different girls before Valese (or whatever her name was) but they all dumped him.

So yeah, he was more of a horny teenage boy that just really wanted a gf.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Tai Lung » Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:07 pm

DestructoDisc wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:03 am
Dbzfan94 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:58 pm
MasenkoHA wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:00 pm


Ladies man
Not really. He went on, what, 2 dates with the same girl that he liked.
Pan hinted in one episode that Goten went on multiple dates with different girls before Valese (or whatever her name was) but they all dumped him.

So yeah, he was more of a horny teenage boy that just really wanted a gf.
Pan also said that she had "boyfriends" who also abandoned her because she was too strong. I do not think that is a determining factor of personality

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Scsigs » Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:09 pm

Tai Lung wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:07 pm
DestructoDisc wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:03 am
Dbzfan94 wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:58 pm
Not really. He went on, what, 2 dates with the same girl that he liked.
Pan hinted in one episode that Goten went on multiple dates with different girls before Valese (or whatever her name was) but they all dumped him.

So yeah, he was more of a horny teenage boy that just really wanted a gf.
Pan also said that she had "boyfriends" who also abandoned her because she was too strong. I do not think that is a determining factor of personality
Gotta also remember Pan was 9 in GT, so...ew...
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Spencer_23 » Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:47 am

The Buu arc is my favorite

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MasenkoHA » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:50 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:02 pm
SSJGAffleck wrote:
Tue Jun 04, 2019 4:54 pm
I accept what they have done with Gohan in Super and GT and I really like what they did with Goten in GT.
GT/DBS Gohan >> DBZ Gohan (except for early Buu saga episodes)

GT Goten is the only version of this character that had ANY relevance in series as a character on his own and only series where he isn't kid Goku's clone.
Goten was never a Kid Goku clone? Goku as a kid was vulgar, unrefined, and a bumpkin. Goten in Z was kind of just a run of the mill “kid”

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MasenkoHA » Sun Jun 09, 2019 1:51 pm

Spencer_23 wrote:
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The Buu arc is my favorite
It probably is my favorite arc of the Z portion. And probably my third favorite overall behind 23 Budokai and Piccolo Daimao.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DestructoDisc » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:42 pm

Scsigs wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:09 pm
Tai Lung wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:07 pm
DestructoDisc wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:03 am

Pan hinted in one episode that Goten went on multiple dates with different girls before Valese (or whatever her name was) but they all dumped him.

So yeah, he was more of a horny teenage boy that just really wanted a gf.
Pan also said that she had "boyfriends" who also abandoned her because she was too strong. I do not think that is a determining factor of personality
Gotta also remember Pan was 9 in GT, so...ew...
Bulla was even younger, and was getting hit on by some adults in the episode where she went shopping with Vegeta. GT had some.. questionable moments to say the least.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Scsigs » Sun Jun 09, 2019 8:04 pm

DestructoDisc wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:42 pm
Scsigs wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:09 pm
Tai Lung wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:07 pm
Pan also said that she had "boyfriends" who also abandoned her because she was too strong. I do not think that is a determining factor of personality
Gotta also remember Pan was 9 in GT, so...ew...
Bulla was even younger, and was getting hit on by some adults in the episode where she went shopping with Vegeta. GT had some.. questionable moments to say the least.
Also a ton of missed potential, but that's not an unpopular opinion.
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