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Re: Dragon Box , Personal Verdict

Post by Corpsecreate » Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:57 pm

The stereo track from the season sets are indeed 192k.

As Marc mentioned, the only way to have included the audio track to each episode would be to reduce the bitrate of the video or reduce the bitrate for the other audio tracks. Reducing the bitrate of the video could have been feasible if FUNimation softened the picture a little bit more before encoding (making it more compressible) but that would result in a blurrier/less sharp/less grainy image. These sets are already less sharp than their R2 counterparts, how much softer do you want to go?

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Post by Castor Troy » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:37 pm

A hardcore fan is someone who knows Goku's actual home address. :P

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Post by Corpsecreate » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:44 pm

If I recall, his address is written on screen during a scene where you can see through the eyes of Dr. Gero...Is that right?

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Post by Krycek7o2 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:53 pm

Corpsecreate wrote:The stereo track from the season sets are indeed 192k.

As Marc mentioned, the only way to have included the audio track to each episode would be to reduce the bitrate of the video or reduce the bitrate for the other audio tracks. Reducing the bitrate of the video could have been feasible if FUNimation softened the picture a little bit more before encoding (making it more compressible) but that would result in a blurrier/less sharp/less grainy image. These sets are already less sharp than their R2 counterparts, how much softer do you want to go?

Arent you glad the days of DVD limitations are coming to an end?
They might have squeezed some more if they'd follow the pattern the R2 Discs did with seemless branching of the intro's.
A big maybe though. I believe that at seven episodes I don't think even that might have worked.

AND YES! I have grown to hate the limitations of DVD. Blu-ray and digital all the way!

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Post by MarcFBR » Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:04 am

Krycek7o2 wrote:They might have squeezed some more if they'd follow the pattern the R2 Discs did with seemless branching of the intro's.
A big maybe though. I believe that at seven episodes I don't think even that might have worked.
As has been mentioned quite a few times already... that wouldn't change anything, as we aren't talking about the size of the disk, but of the data rate the standard requires.
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Post by LiamKav » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:46 am

Corpsecreate wrote:Arent you glad the days of DVD limitations are coming to an end?
To be replaced by the limitations of the Blu-Ray format and internet bandwidth!

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LiamKav wrote:
Corpsecreate wrote:Arent you glad the days of DVD limitations are coming to an end?
To be replaced by the limitations of the Blu-Ray format and internet bandwidth!
Beat me to it; "Yay, we're Blu-Ray! We can't do anamorphic!"

Ugh, reminds me of a recent IGN article about cut scenes from Dark Knight Rises and one poster "hoping they'd be on the DVD", followed by at least fifteen variations of "You mean Blu-Ray, right?" But then I'm not hating on Blu-Ray, just had to be pointed out that it won't be much better if we ever get to a point where we're dealing with 1080p video on a regular basis.
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Post by Corpsecreate » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:37 am

3D, 1080p per eye, 60 FPS.

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Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:47 am

Castor Troy wrote:A hardcore fan is someone who knows Goku's actual home address. :P
Son Goku
2 Mount Paozu
Dragon World

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:15 pm

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Son Goku
2 Mount Paozu
Dragon World
More like:
Son Goku
2 Mount Paozu
Eastern Region 439
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:32 pm

Am I the only one that noticed how the house changed in design by the Android Saga and onward?

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:37 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Am I the only one that noticed how the house changed in design by the Android Saga and onward?
No? His house changed a couple of times, presumably to allow for more space for his growing family and his own return.
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Post by jpdbzrulz4sure » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:01 pm

Here's the real explanation for why the Sons' house changed in the Cell arc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFaZoa9C ... age#t=135s
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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:14 pm

jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:Here's the real explanation for why the Sons' house changed in the Cell arc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFaZoa9C ... age#t=135s
That's good to know because I'm not as familiar with the manga as I am with the anime.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 6:31 am I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.

I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.

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Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:51 pm

jpdbzrulz4sure wrote:Here's the real explanation for why the Sons' house changed in the Cell arc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFaZoa9C ... age#t=135s
Hehe, I was about to jump in and explain that, but why should I have to do when you show that I already did? :D

Thanks for the plug!

So, yeah, it would be

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:20 pm

Even though Mount Paozu is an anime created term, nothing contradicts the idea that Goku's house isn't still in the same general area after the move. Sure it's a decent distance away on the Daizenshuu map, but from what we see in both the manga and anime, that region is pretty huge. It's pretty likely that that Eastern Region 439 still contains at least part of what was coined as Mount Paozu and that Goku still set up roots there IMO. So I'd say the Paozu part of the address is still plausible, even if not 100% official.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:45 pm

Except that Goku's adult home is by a river and certainly doesn't seem to be in the mountains. Aside from that, since there is no Paozu "region" in the manga, I do find it implausible.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:50 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Except that Goku's adult home is by a river and certainly doesn't seem to be in the mountains. Aside from that, since there is no Paozu "region" in the manga, I do find it implausible.
Except for the fact that the house is surrounded by mountains in the background of pretty much every panel and the training ground in their backyard used by Gohan, Goten and Videl in the Buu arc and Goku, Goten and Pan before the 28th Budokai is nothing but mountains. The house itself is in a clearing by a river, but that doesn't seem so strange given the varied topography of the Paozu region.

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Your latter point is only a problem caused by whatever you consider canon to the continuities. So long as different media exclusive elements don't contradict anything, I have no problem including it across all parts of the franchise. So, sure, the Paozu region isn't mentioned in the manga, but just because it isn't mentioned doesn't mean that it doesn't exist in that continuity too, meaning it's still plausible to me.
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Post by coola » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:33 pm

While Funimation release is great, i really think it miss Faulconer soundtrack on English dub, if it was included, we would truly have perfect release, for hardcore fans of both Japanese and English dub
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:38 pm

tl;dr

FUNimation needs to re-release Dragon Box Z in cheaper packages (DVD fat packs) with US replacement music so that everyone gets along and shut the hell up with which music fits the most.

Btw, I'm not forgetting the Ocean version, it's just that it wouldn't be included.
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