Amazon Dragon Ball Season set quality comparison question
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Amazon Dragon Ball Season set quality comparison question
Is the original quality FUNimations 2nd (re-dub saga of goku) or the dragon box?
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Re: Amazon Dragon Ball Season set quality comparison questio
I'm not sure, it looks like they just put a blue filter over the "old" footage. But then again, the "new" footage is zoomed in, just like the action seasons. They kinda screwed themselves over with that.
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Re: Amazon Dragon Ball Season set quality comparison questio
How so? Yeah, it's zoomed in a bit but it's not like it significantly alters the picture and certainly not in any way like the Z sets cropped it into a fake widescreen.dragondyle wrote:But then again, the "new" footage is zoomed in, just like the action seasons. They kinda screwed themselves over with that.
Re: Amazon Dragon Ball Season set quality comparison questio
It's probably not even a correct screenshot. If I knew the timecode/episode for it, I would take a shot of the Aussie release if that could help.
Here are some random shots from the original release of 'The Saga of Goku', first episode, (Australian DVD, which was available a long time before the US release) Time codes are in the file name. PNG format.
Here are some random shots from the original release of 'The Saga of Goku', first episode, (Australian DVD, which was available a long time before the US release) Time codes are in the file name. PNG format.
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Oh, yes. That horrible cropping! This isn't as bad as that but it still shows how the footage is zoomed in and that can be a deal breaker for some people.OutlawTorn wrote:How so? Yeah, it's zoomed in a bit but it's not like it significantly alters the picture and certainly not in any way like the Z sets cropped it into a fake widescreen.dragondyle wrote:But then again, the "new" footage is zoomed in, just like the action seasons. They kinda screwed themselves over with that.
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Would anyone be able to grab some screenshots from the 'remastered' set to compare to the ones I posted? As I said, the time code is in the file name. ie; snapshot_dvd_00.00.19_[2012.09.05_21.24.15]
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Sorry to bump a bit, but I could take a screencap if you want... however, I'm a bit inexperienced in doing so. Playing the dvd on VLC and using the snipping tool, will that not cause any compression or anything?
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If you're using VLC, you can just go to "video" and hit "snapshot." It'll give you a lossless png.SM-dood wrote:Sorry to bump a bit, but I could take a screencap if you want... however, I'm a bit inexperienced in doing so. Playing the dvd on VLC and using the snipping tool, will that not cause any compression or anything?
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Alrighty then, I will go do that right now. I'll edit this message with the pictures when I am finished.
Edit: If anyone's curious, I could do most of the same images from the Trimark dub dvds as well, as I have them.
Edit #2: I screen-capped all of the shots from the Remastered release for you guys, and included the one Amazon gave as well to see if there was any difference. Sadly, the times given in the file names didn't seem to match up with the times on this dvd entirely (or I'm a newb to this), but I believe I got the correct screenshots manually anyway, or close enough to it.
http://s1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd5 ... creencaps/ < The screenshots
Edit: If anyone's curious, I could do most of the same images from the Trimark dub dvds as well, as I have them.
Edit #2: I screen-capped all of the shots from the Remastered release for you guys, and included the one Amazon gave as well to see if there was any difference. Sadly, the times given in the file names didn't seem to match up with the times on this dvd entirely (or I'm a newb to this), but I believe I got the correct screenshots manually anyway, or close enough to it.
http://s1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd5 ... creencaps/ < The screenshots
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Re: Amazon Dragon Ball Season set quality comparison questio
Did no one else notice that these two shots aren't at the same time? Pretty poor comparison, just look at the placement of the mountain to the bike between these shots.eledoremassis02 wrote:
Is the original quality FUNimations 2nd (re-dub saga of goku) or the dragon box?
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Re: Amazon Dragon Ball Season set quality comparison questio
I think the discussion is more about the colors than anything else, also the two shots aren't that far apart so I don't really see the problem.sumpter360 wrote:Did no one else notice that these two shots aren't at the same time? Pretty poor comparison, just look at the placement of the mountain to the bike between these shots.eledoremassis02 wrote:
Is the original quality FUNimations 2nd (re-dub saga of goku) or the dragon box?
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Oh, I see. Sorry, I thought this was aimed more towards the zoomingsuperrayman3 wrote:I think the discussion is more about the colors than anything else, also the two shots aren't that far apart so I don't really see the problem.sumpter360 wrote:Did no one else notice that these two shots aren't at the same time? Pretty poor comparison, just look at the placement of the mountain to the bike between these shots.eledoremassis02 wrote:
Is the original quality FUNimations 2nd (re-dub saga of goku) or the dragon box?
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Re: Amazon Dragon Ball Season set quality comparison questio
I think the "original quality" is the Dragon Box. If no one else has posted a Dragon Box shot of it, I will when I get home. Some of the earlier DBox episodes have a little bit of a color cast on them from age (like too much green or yellow across the picture).
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Re: Amazon Dragon Ball Season set quality comparison questio
Here is a screenshot of roughly the same frame from the R2 DBox:eledoremassis02 wrote:
Is the original quality FUNimations 2nd (re-dub saga of goku) or the dragon box?
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Thats def. dragon box footage! I took the screen caps provided here to make a bigger version (except both Gokus are level). It seems to loose about the same amount of picture on each release (top on dbox, bottom on remastered). However, Dbox has more on the sides. Also, did FUNimation squish the footage?
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It looks like that Dbox image is squished, actually. If someone could get a proper Dbox shot from the same frame it would be easier to judge, but I bet the DBox image actually has more area all around. Especially on these early episodes that are zoomed a lot. I think it's cool that you can see the edges of the film.eledoremassis02 wrote:Thats def. dragon box footage! I took the screen caps provided here to make a bigger version (except both Gokus are level). It seems to loose about the same amount of picture on each release (top on dbox, bottom on remastered). However, Dbox has more on the sides. Also, did FUNimation squish the footage?
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I didn't take the time to give a "proper" screen shot with correct aspect ratio and all... I thought we were just looking at colors.Zestanor wrote:It looks like that Dbox image is squished, actually.
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Thanks for taking those Remastered shots.SM-dood wrote:Alrighty then, I will go do that right now. I'll edit this message with the pictures when I am finished.
Edit: If anyone's curious, I could do most of the same images from the Trimark dub dvds as well, as I have them.
Edit #2: I screen-capped all of the shots from the Remastered release for you guys, and included the one Amazon gave as well to see if there was any difference. Sadly, the times given in the file names didn't seem to match up with the times on this dvd entirely (or I'm a newb to this), but I believe I got the correct screenshots manually anyway, or close enough to it.
http://s1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd5 ... creencaps/ < The screenshots
Comparing them to the original release shots I took, it looks like the remastered sets also had some DNR applied.
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http://s1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd5 ... Episode_1/ This is more of a bonus thing, but I've taken some screenshots from "The Saga of Goku" set as well to see if there was any resemblance. It matches the Remastered colors more IMO. (Not that being an edited dub, some things are removed/switched around and I can't get all of the screencaps [at the moment]).
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I'm not too sure what we're all talking about here -- but FUNI's Blue Dragon Ball sets aren't based off of the Japanese Dragon Box in any fashion. They are basically a decent cleanup of the digi-beta versions they've always had. So claiming "original" vs. "remastered" isn't a good way to describe the screenshots in the original post. The Japanese release of the Dragon Ball Dragon Box is cleanup up very well with some arguments to made regarding the coloring (again, see this thread). Others have pointed out the Blue Bricks still have video problems (such as rainbow effects, etc...). While some may claim the colors aren't as faithful in the Japanese DBox release due to age, the video cleanup of dirt/film glue/film tears/sharpness/encoding is far superior to any other release so far.LordCrumb wrote:Comparing them to the original release shots I took, it looks like the remastered sets also had some DNR applied.
I think chances are we're going to see a Dragon Ball Dragon Box release in the US soon, so if you're looking into purchasing options, I'd wait. I believe someone made the claim of a FUNI rep stating the next Dragon Ball release would be Q1 of 2013 -- right around the corner. So, I think we'll be hearing an announcement soon (although, I could always be wrong).
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