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Do you think Funimation is over-selling DBZ?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:45 pm

With the new dvd for ocean dub coming out I'm starting to dislike funimation's love for Dbz. I like the idea ocean fans can now have a dvd now instead of VHS but they should've done this earlier. Now it's just guessing game on when the next Dbz dvd will come out. It's not like it's something new. It's the same dub(s) and same music. No new features such as the Lantio dub like the UUE had and the single dvd had. It's just constant re release of the same thing,.. If you brought every dbz sale from Funimation then you have

Movie 1 - 3 Uncut dvds
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UUE
Orange bricks
Dragonbox
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Soon to be Ocean Dvd.
Blingman121v3 6 days ago
What is the point of this dvd? Seriously Funimation is stupid -_-. I'm not an ocean fan but what the hell Funimation!? This is 2013 not fucking 1996 - 2003! Stop making dbz dvds -_-.
DBZOceanStudios 6 days ago
I second that. DBZ is OVER! Who ever heard of a company make so many releases? If DBZ was done by Pioneer it'd not have been this way with 50 releases.
ZeroTyrant 5 days ago
I'm not really looking forward to it.
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(cont) Two words: EPIC FAIL!
I'm just quoting btw. Should Funimation just stop selling dvds for dbz? I mean Besides Dragonbox which are out of print if I'm correct, the main Dvd(Orange Brick) is a bad sale due to quality and bad ratio. Ocean Dvd most likely going be the best package wise cause you get all of ocean's early work. But seriously Funimation should just stop selling dvd.

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Re: Do you think Funimation is over-selling DBZ?

Post by 90sDBZ » Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:51 pm

I have no problem with it. The more releases there is the more chance there is of everyone being happy. The fact that they're milking the franchise isn't detrimental to the fans in any way so I see no reason to complain about it.

Also the Orange Bricks didn't sell badly and in fact sold incredibly well. Funimation even said it was like printing money.
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Re: Do you think Funimation is over-selling DBZ?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:51 pm

The only Dragon Ball Z set still in production are the Orange Bricks (Season Sets), and the rest were sort of limited time edition because they're off now.

Dragon Ball Z: Rock the Dragon Collector's Edition will likely be available also for limited time and then the prices will boost up. Just like the Dragon Ball Z Dragon Box Z collection volumes.

By the way, it's called Blu-ray not "Blue Ray".
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Re: Do you think Funimation is over-selling DBZ?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:14 pm

90sDBZ wrote:I have no problem with it. The more releases there is the more chance there is of everyone being happy. The fact that they're milking the franchise isn't detrimental to the fans in any way so I see no reason to complain about it.

Also the Orange Bricks didn't sell badly and in fact sold incredibly well. Funimation even said it was like printing money.
I never said they sold badly. I said they was a bad release due to ratio and quality.

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Re: Do you think Funimation is over-selling DBZ?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:23 pm

I never said they sold badly. I said it was a bad release due to ratio and quality.
The majority of the customers do not see either of these two as an issue and most think it's a great quality release, somehow. I guess some peoples' expectation for a quality isn't much.
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Re: Do you think Funimation is over-selling DBZ?

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:24 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
I never said they sold badly. I said it was a bad release due to ratio and quality.
The majority of the customers do not see either of these two as an issue and most think it's a great quality release, somehow. I guess some peoples' expectation for a quality isn't much.
Or nostalgia.

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Post by OmegaRockman » Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:32 pm

I honestly don't see this release as any different from ADV releasing the original Robotech alongside Macross and Knights of the Zodiac alongside Saint Seiya.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:40 pm

Or nostalgia.
The Dragon Ball Z: Level (Blu-ray) collection also featured the US Replacement Soundtrack but they weren't really a success, I just suppose people were already satisfied enough as it is with the Orange Bricks.
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Post by Super Sonic » Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:44 pm

At least with DBZ there usually is more to what was released each time. Recently they re-released Rosario + Vampire as essentially the same as its previous release, but with different box art. Nothing changed I'm aware of. And way back when, ADV released new Eva versions how many times?

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:17 pm

They do have to keep on making new DBZ dvd's in order to keep the license. I don't think they will stop until they are done for good. We still have the Dragon Ball boxes (not DBZ), DBGT boxes, the DBZ movies boxes and Battle of Gods not on R1 DVD yet.
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Post by Ryuji-Otogi » Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:45 pm

I have no problem with it. If they feel like re-releasing Z Dragon Boxes, or bringing over the other ones for the first time, then let em! And you say FUNimation should do something different like releasing the Latino dub instead of putting out the same thing over and over again, but the Ocean dub release they're doing is just that. Different. Looks like a pretty solid collector's item too.

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Post by SSJJezter » Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:48 pm

As long as they keep coming out withquality releases I don't have a problem with it. The only releases I would be interested in now though would be a Z Dragon Box reprint and Dragon Boxes for Dragonball, DBGT and the movies.

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Post by OutlawTorn » Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:50 pm

I don't think think FUNimation is over-selling DBZ in principle, but I do think they are over-saturating the market with too many releases in close proximity with one another. For the arguments that say they should stop producing DVDs because the series is over, I say bullshit.

Star Trek was over about 44 years ago and there have been multiple releases:

VHS - at least three releases
LaserDisc
DVD - 3 releases (single disc, season sets and remastered season sets)
Blu-ray

The same is true for Star Trek: The Next Generation, which has had at least two VHS releases, LaserDisc, two DVD season set releases and one DVD complete series release and, now, a Blu-ray release.

The only comparison between the "Next Generation" and FUNimation's DBZ releases would be the inexplicable cheaper re-release of the DVD sets while the more expensive Blu-ray remastering process is ongoing.
dbboxkaifan wrote:The Dragon Ball Z: Level (Blu-ray) collection also featured the US Replacement Soundtrack but they weren't really a success, I just suppose people were already satisfied enough as it is with the Orange Bricks.
The problem with the Level sets is FUNimation never gave the consumers time to breathe. It was the DVD season sets leading immediately into the Dragon Boxes, which lead immediately into the Blu-ray Level sets, all while the DVD season sets are still available with more episodes at a comparable price. The people who couldn't care less about the mutilation of the picture wouldn't really see the need for the Level sets when they can get more episodes for less with the DVDs. The purists, on the other hand, would turn their noses up at the Level sets for reasons ranging from them not including the next episode previews or simply because it wasn't Toei producing them.

It's like the example with The Next Generation I gave above. Why would CBS release cheaper re-packagings of the DVD season sets now while they are barely halfway through the Blu-ray remastering of the series, putting out a competing product where people can pretty much get two DVD seasons for the price of a Blu-ray counterpart? Wouldn't it have been logical to release the bargain DVDs after the Blu-ray releases had finished, rather than jeopardize the potential profits from the Blu-ray investment?

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Post by Pretorious » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:04 pm

90sDBZ wrote:I have no problem with it. The more releases there is the more chance there is of everyone being happy. The fact that they're milking the franchise isn't detrimental to the fans in any way so I see no reason to complain about it.
Agree 100%. It's a win for both FUNimation and the fans. Now more Dragon Boxes please! :D

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Post by Metalwario64 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:15 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:I like the idea ocean fans can now have a dvd now instead of VHS but they should've done this earlier.
They did release DVDs of the Ocean cast material years ago. Well, Pioneer did specifically, but those episodes have been available since the late 90s on DVD.
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Post by ShadowDude112 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:18 pm

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I second that. DBZ is OVER! Who ever heard of a company make so many releases? If DBZ was done by Pioneer it'd not have been this way with 50 releases.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. Oh man. Ocean dub DBZ fans are the worst on Youtube. They'll call you a fag for liking the FUNimation version better and claim their voice cast is superior even past the Freeza arc. If this was like, Ocean doing the releases somehow, I doubt this guy would be complaining.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:28 pm

The orange bricks did well because they were able to put all of the episodes in a single set and they did a decent job on marketing on the DVD's. Unlike the Dragon Ball Z boxes, the orange bricks were more easy to find at local stores like Target, Best Buy and K-Mart (Yes this place still exist). Funi are always going to find ways to milk DBZ until they lose the license.
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Post by thedarkuniter » Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:35 pm

I think they are, however, there's different releases for different folks:

.The Dragon Boxes are for the causal English fan who likes the dub and doesn't mind the Japanese score and the "hardcore" Japanese version fans.

.The Dragon Ball Z Blu-rays are there to please fans of the Toonami with the background score, causal Japanese version fans and the causal English dub who doesn't care about background music.

. Dragon Ball Z Kai is great for those who want a shorten version of Z with an mostly accurate dub or subs.

.The Ocean boxset is great for those who like the Ocean dub.


People who say the Toonami fans have their own proper DVD release of that said dub via the season sets, I find that's not true. The Toonami fans deserve better than the crappy picture quality they have, the Blu-rays are the closest thing to an "ultimate" edition for almost all fans. For the Spanish ( Latino) dub, while Spanish is the second most spoken language in the states, there's not that many folks who are vocal enough to have the dub on the sets; most causal U.S. fans only want English.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:05 pm

I always imagine that the Spanish dub never got put out on R1 DVD because the rights to it was likely too much. With anime DVD's, you just get English and Japanese dubs only.
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Post by Super Sonic » Sun Jun 09, 2013 5:06 pm

thedarkuniter wrote:I think they are, however, there's different releases for different folks:

People who say the Toonami fans have their own proper DVD release of that said dub via the season sets, I find that's not true. The Toonami fans deserve better than the crappy picture quality they have, the Blu-rays are the closest thing to an "ultimate" edition for almost all fans. For for the Spanish ( Latino) dub, while Spanish is the second most spoken language in the states, there's not that folks who are vocal enough to have the dub on the sets; most causal U.S. fans only want English.
I think with the Toonami fans, maybe they could've gotten the earlier releases unless they were kids back then. Speaking of guys who want the Spanish dub, I wonder do they watch the Spanish tracks on other animation or live-action dvds?

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