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And when he does inflect, he sounds like he's angry, goofy or contemplative, it's uncanny! /sarcasm
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I don't know it off hand because I do not physically own the movie yet, but what is Cooler and Goku's exchange right after he transforms into a Super Sayain? I honestly liked what they went with in the Funi dub there, because while it was still channeling super hero Goku against Freeza, it also summarizes pretty nicely two-faced the Cold Clan's "I can do anything I want because no one can stop me" logic is, which is what makes watching them all crack so fun.
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Agree with this; Yanami's is just so monotone it doesn't even look like he's trying. I would agree with past posts in disagreeing that his Kaio is that bland, though.Looneygamemaster wrote:Speaking of Branan, his Babidi is also leagues better then Joji Yanami's. Not even a contest. I applaud the latter for at least trying to do a different voice, and I like that feel his voice has sometimes--like he's a schoolteacher, and everyone else is a dumb kid--but his acting is just the same dull monotone I hear in every role he does.
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He's so effortlessly good that it doesn't seem like he's trying. I prefer this to the myriad of other actors that try too hard such as Hebert and Kelly as the narrator.BlazingFiddlesticks wrote:Agree with this; Yanami's is just so monotone it doesn't even look like he's trying. I would agree with past posts in disagreeing that his Kaio is that bland, though.
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It is true that Yanami's Babidi is pretty much his Kaio suffering from a cold, though. The English dub Babidi is a bit more distinct.
But I wouldn't say I prefer it.
But I wouldn't say I prefer it.
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Both Babidis are about equal in my eyes. To me, they both sound like old dudes with nasally voices, who are still stuck-up, spoiled brats. Yanami has the slight edge, but both performances work and are supposed to make you hate this guy.
Terry Klassen's Babidi from the Westwood dub wasn't that good though. He just can't avoid using his Krillin voice for every role, huh?
Terry Klassen's Babidi from the Westwood dub wasn't that good though. He just can't avoid using his Krillin voice for every role, huh?
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Not as bad as Klassen's Roshi.
But that later Westwood dub was obviously made on the cheap. They probably had to double, triple up roles out of desperation. Even the sound mixing is horrible.
But that later Westwood dub was obviously made on the cheap. They probably had to double, triple up roles out of desperation. Even the sound mixing is horrible.
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Yeah, I noticed the sound issues. I've been watching that dub recently, and sometimes it's hard to hear the characters because the music is louder than the voices. I also really wish they weren't just taking the FUNimation script and changing a couple words here and there. But, like you said, it was made super quickly and cheaply. They probably didn't even have a translator involved. Just used the existing English script.
I will say, in defense of the Westwood dub, I think Brad Swaile's Teen Gohan is one of the best voices in that, besides Scott McNeil and Brian Drummond.
I will say, in defense of the Westwood dub, I think Brad Swaile's Teen Gohan is one of the best voices in that, besides Scott McNeil and Brian Drummond.
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Agreed. Swaile is just as good as Hebert. And I'd put both of them on the same level as Nozawa in that role.
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I was watching the Buu saga recently, and when Gotenks Buu was fighting Gohan, Funi inserted a sneakily awesome callback to the Saiyan saga. After Tien died, Gohan laments and says if he hadn't gotten scared of Nappa and ran away, Tien wouldn't have lived. Piccolo scolds him and says, "It hurts, doesn't it? Facing your fears would've been much less painful." During the fight with Gohan, Buu was playing mind games and referencing Gohan's training with Piccolo and shit like that, and after he beats him up, he says this line verbatim.
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I love that line. It's been in my signature since I joined this forumjjgp1112 wrote:I was watching the Buu saga recently, and when Gotenks Buu was fighting Gohan, Funi inserted a sneakily awesome callback to the Saiyan saga. After Tenshinhan died, Gohan laments and says if he hadn't gotten scared of Nappa and ran away, Tenshinhan wouldn't have lived. Piccolo scolds him and says, "It hurts, doesn't it? Facing your fears would've been much less painful." During the fight with Gohan, Buu was playing mind games and referencing Gohan's training with Piccolo and shit like that, and after he beats him up, he says this line verbatim.
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It was actually because of your sig that I finally caught that, lol. When he said that, I thought, "Someone has that Piccolo quote in their sig on Kanzenshuu..."Kamiccolo9 wrote:I love that line. It's been in my signature since I joined this forumjjgp1112 wrote:I was watching the Buu saga recently, and when Gotenks Buu was fighting Gohan, Funi inserted a sneakily awesome callback to the Saiyan saga. After Tenshinhan died, Gohan laments and says if he hadn't gotten scared of Nappa and ran away, Tenshinhan wouldn't have lived. Piccolo scolds him and says, "It hurts, doesn't it? Facing your fears would've been much less painful." During the fight with Gohan, Buu was playing mind games and referencing Gohan's training with Piccolo and shit like that, and after he beats him up, he says this line verbatim.
Yamcha: Do you remember the spell to release him - do you know all the words?
Bulma: Of course! I'm not gonna pull a Frieza and screw it up!
Master Roshi: Bulma, I think Frieza failed because he wore too many clothes!
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I think Gotenks-Buu does a much better job of taunting Gohan in the dub than the Japanese version. A lot of the lines are similar, but they just sound more... evil. Maybe that's down to Justin Cook's performance, which is weird because I could take or leave him as Buu. That said, there's still a TON of added dialogue during the fight here that I - for once - enjoy. Like how Buu says Goten wonders why Gohan let him get absorbed and how Trunks thinks he's a coward. Yeah, there are similar mind games in the Japanese version, but that line stings much more than any I noticed in the sub script. Your mileage may vary, but it seems like I'm not alone on this one.
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I think it helps too that Kozo Shioya (Japanese Boo) isn't at his best here. He does great with the child-like and brutishly insane side of Boo, but when the character temporarily becomes another "arrogant sadist" he sounds like a pale imitation of Nakao's Freeza or Wakamoto's Cell.I think Gotenks-Buu does a much better job of taunting Gohan in the dub than the Japanese version. A lot of the lines are similar, but they just sound more... evil. Maybe that's down to Justin Cook's performance, which is weird because I could take or leave him as Buu.
...That might have actually been intentional (showing Boo trying to be something he isn't, especially when fighting Vegetto), but if it wasn't, he did kind of miss the mark there.
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I completely disagree, I thought it was creepy how he could go from very childlike to very terrifying. Cook always sounds like he's trying too hard.Looneygamemaster wrote:I think it helps too that Kozo Shioya (Japanese Boo) isn't at his best here. He does great with the child-like and brutishly insane side of Boo, but when the character temporarily becomes another "arrogant sadist" he sounds like a pale imitation of Nakao's Freeza or Wakamoto's Cell.I think Gotenks-Buu does a much better job of taunting Gohan in the dub than the Japanese version. A lot of the lines are similar, but they just sound more... evil. Maybe that's down to Justin Cook's performance, which is weird because I could take or leave him as Buu.
...That might have actually been intentional (showing Boo trying to be something he isn't, especially when fighting Vegetto), but if it wasn't, he did kind of miss the mark there.
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Korean dub. Trunks turn SSJ for Freezer. That was bad***!
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Hey, let's not forget Super Buu vs. Vegetto! It may not be all that different, but some of the altered lines are sheer gold !
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Brother you are the best for that. The whoe scene in Korean > ALL of JPN scenes but SSJ Gohan turning SSJ2 with Sprit vs SpritIAmAwesome wrote:Korean dub. Trunks turn SSJ for Freezer. That was bad***!
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In the Brazilian dub, i like this scene more than the original version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIJWmiIFjMA
Don't get me wrong, i love Ryusei Nakao as Freeza, but Carlos campanile is one of the most talented voice actors in Brazil.
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I completely disagree, I thought it was creepy how he could go from very childlike to very terrifying. Cook always sounds like he's trying too hard.[/quote]ABED wrote: ...That might have actually been intentional (showing Boo trying to be something he isn't, especially when fighting Vegetto), but if it wasn't, he did kind of miss the mark there.
That's a good way to describe the problems I have with him as well. As I said, I could take or leave him in the role.
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I prefer English Kai to Japanese Kai. I say this because Kai in Japanese is clearly inferior to Japanese Z, on the other hand, Kai in English is clearly vastly superior to Enlgish Z
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