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Thoughts on DBZ Movie 4

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:44 pm

Movie 1-http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=24404
Movie 2-http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=24418
Movie 3-http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=24428

So, Movie 4-The Piccolo Daim- I mean Lord Slug.
Not a big fan of this movie. As much as I love the Namekians in general, Slug completely fails to interest me as a villain. His henchmen are okay though, and I do like Piccolo taking them on. The weakness to whistling was a nice touch, something different. But I am getting tired of the Genki Dama by this point. I do really like "False" Super Saiyan though. Overall, I give this one a C-.
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Post by KingofWisdom » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:53 pm

I liked it as a kid, probably because I had no idea who Piccolo Daimao was. Yeah, not a good movie. I don't think it's my least favorite, but it's close.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:58 pm

Better than Movies 3, 7, 8, and 10, at least. I don't think it's bad. Animation's kind of wonky, but at least the non-Gokus get to do something. Slug is kind of bland, but meh, I wasn't really expecting anything big from the film villains anyway. He does his job. Mostly I like Piccolo's role; he actually gets to take the not-demon spawn from not-King Piccolo, and plays a fairly big role in Slug's final defeat. Hell, even Chi Chi got a fight. Also, FSS >>>>>> SS. Spirit Bomb sucks, and Slug's defeat as a total anticlimax, but what ya gonna do?

It's not good, but it's nowhere near the worst, like I often see it put at. No, if I had to pick, I'd say Movie 7 is the worst.
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Post by Gonstead » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:58 pm

Another pretty boring movie. The only thing I kinda like about it is the False-SSJ scene.
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Post by ABED » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:21 pm

Yeah, it's boring, and wish they had used this film to give Piccolo the spotlight more.
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Re: Thoughts on DBZ Movie 4

Post by MDSTSSJ » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:28 pm

I like some aspects of this movie.

I like the idea of another very strong Namekian besides Piccolo and Nail. Slug belongs to the Dragon warrior family and he is pure evil.

I like a lot the false Super Saiyan and white eyes and all that. The idea that Goku becomes a false SSJ by an impulse of rage is really good too. When no one had power to give, Goku had to do it on his own.

Slug became stronger when turned into giant? It makes no sense to me. Well, I hate the giant Namekian idea.

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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:28 pm

I have a lot of nostalgia for this one, but yeah, there's not a lot to it. Don't like it or hate it, it just kinda is.

Despite the cringe-worthy dialogue, I do have a soft-spot for the English dub due to the musical score with the "real rock bands". I know a lot of people hate that sort of thing, but when I was younger I just thought it was the coolest thing ever and it really gave the film a more cinematic feel.

The Super Saiyan thing came out of no where. There was like a two minute sequence and then Kaio mentions it a couple of times, but that's it. They named the film "Super Saiyan Son Goku" for the sake of dragging kids into the theatres. It's even more random in the English dub where the film's simply called 'Lord Slug'.

The animation in this movie, I also have a soft-spot for. It reminds me a lot of the promotional artwork that was floating around for the series in the early 2000s. I'm tempted to call it "Text Book DBZ". :P

And the best thing about this film?
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Re: Thoughts on DBZ Movie 4

Post by Puto » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:22 am

I love this movie somehow. Not sure why, possibly the soundtrack (the BGM that plays when Gokū does that last Kaiō-ken after Piccolo gave him energy? Just epic). I cannot explain for the life of me why I love it so much, but I do.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:59 am

Animation - C. Not bad and not good. Seem more or less like an average DBZ episode animation. Nothing special about it. Movie 1 still got the best animation out of all movies

Plot - C. Nothing boring like Tree of Might and nothing to bash it. Great work making Piccolo,Krillin, and Gohan not Goku's bitches. Everyone get's a chance to have a spotlight if you're in the movie. even Chi Chi. Through the plot after Giji SSJ was a downgrade. The dialog should had said Kaioken x100 and make that the ending. Not another Genki Dami(officially known as Genki Dama) ending. I mean when the next time you'll see a kaioken x100? The ear weakness if every unique I'll give it that so was Giji SSJ.

Music - C. Great Music as always is what I usually will say. But something about this movie in ALL BGM's of it is just isn't right.(Same thing I said about movie 3)

Fighting - C. The henchmen fight was awesome. Goku vs Lord slug? Not so much. That's all I got to say.

So basically this movie is just average. I would't bash it nor will I'll suggest it.

P.S. Does anyone think this should have been Piccolo's movie?

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Post by Jackal puFF » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:28 am

Every once in a while I have that moment where I want to marathon the dragonball movies and then I'm reminded of this one..

This is the worst dragonball movie to me.

I did like the whole false super saiyan thing, just wish it was longer. But I guess we kind of got that in movie 8 huh?

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Re: Thoughts on DBZ Movie 4

Post by DBZ Mick » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:52 am

Finally watched it in Japanese a few weeks back.

It's good for what it is and gets to the point/action straight away. Found the fights pretty enjoyable except Goku's fight with Slug was lacklustre except the whole false SSJ moment.
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Post by coola » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:44 am

My first official DBZ DVD i bought in 2003, i really like this movie, much better than 3rd one, enjoyed False SSJ concept, i think it`s closer to what Vegeta said, a bloodlust warrior, i liked Slug, he was pure evil, you could even get Freeza vibes from him, when he killed his henchmen without any reason, Z Warriors are not cannon fodder anymore, and get chance to shine, even Chi-Chi.
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Post by Commander_Red » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:47 am

Team Fourstars version of this movie is probably the best version I've seen. It's pretty easy fodder though, so much in it is just too ridiculous.

I hated that movies 1-3 introduced me to the original music, then suddenly this one comes out and has metal blaring too loudly throughout the duration. Why, Funimation, why?

Did Roshi seriously sleep through the whole thing, or was it all a dream of his...?

Made 4 Goats used to have a really funny synopsis of this movie too.

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Post by Son Edo » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:54 am

A lot of unintentional funny moments for me in this one :lol: Slugg killing his own henchmen with beams to the chest. I thought this movie was overall but than it's predecessor, I thought Slugg was better villain than Tullece. Super Saiyan was random and served no purpose since it didn't get the job done in defeating Slugg and barely had any screen time. It was cool how Slugg was going to turn earth into a planet cruiser, how does that work?

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:54 pm

This is definitely one of my least favorite movies. I still like it well enough that if I'm watching all the movies again, I watch it where it goes, but...ehh. It's fairly forgettable.

I do kind of appreciate it giving us an evil Namekian though, something we hadn't had, in a way. Back when we had Daimao and then regular Piccolo, we had no idea that they were Namekians. By the time we figured it out, we never again had an evil character from that race, so it was cool to have that. And then it all goes down the toilet by just copy-pasting Daimao's whole MO into the character. Bleh.

I do kinda like Medamatcha (can't remember his original name) though, the little freaky frog minion guy. With the mini clones. He was neat.
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Post by Cursed Lemon » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:22 am

There's really just nothing worth watching in this movie. It's a villain invented for no reason, with no other plot angle than "take over the planet".
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:54 pm

The movie is pretty bad and the dub makes the movie even worst. The plot is completely unoriginal and Lord Slug is just a lame villain. The False SSj form is pretty neat, but the form is hardly in the movie. This movie is one of my least favorite DBZ movies next to DBZ Movie 2 and DBZ Movie 11.
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Post by Quebaz » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:52 pm

Only thing I liked was False SSJ and the henchemen fights, Goku vs Slug was meh for me, so was Slug overall. The music was alright I guess, I only remeber 2 pieces when I think of this movie:
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Post by Vegard Aune » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:23 pm

Having recently gotten the movie Dragon Box, I've been catching up on the movies that I hadn't seen before, which is to say, DB movie 1, and DBZ movies 4, 5, 7 and 9. When it comes to this one, I think I can summarize my opinion in one sentence:
Team Four-Star had the EASIEST JOB IN THE WORLD parodying this movie, because by god is it dumb. Like, I always thought the whole whistling-thing was a joke that they came up with, but that was actually in the movie? And it's actually instrumental to defeating the villain? That's only marginally less anti-climactic than Cloned-Brolli-Sludge-Monster being killed by water. And then there's just how blatantly it rips off the Piccolo-saga, coupled with several moments of rather derpy animation, (though the only specific moment I can think of at the moment is, at the start when Goku and Kuririn are trying to change the meteor's course, the shading on Goku's arm keeps inverting itself, aka the shadowed parts suddenly becoming bright for one frame while the bright parts suddenly become shadowed) this was on the whole not a very excellent movie at all.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:09 am

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It's not them that came up with this, it was Toriyama.
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