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Re: Manga/Anime Comparisons.

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:22 pm

Meh, nothing Berserk hasent already done and topped.
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Re: Manga/Anime Comparisons.

Post by Mewzard » Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:24 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Meh, nothing Berserk hasent already done and topped.
Yeah, but we're comparing Jump manga with Toei animation. There's a lot Toei won't do.
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Re: Manga/Anime Comparisons.

Post by Fizzer » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:54 pm

Weird, I always thought Goku killing Drum was less graphic in the anime. It must have been because it happens so fast.

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Post by tronk21 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:00 pm

Another scene that was toned down a bit in the anime version.

Here's a panel from the manga where Piccolo kills 'the strong type' of the King Castle force:

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It's the top-right panel I'm talking about. And here're two frames from the anime:

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In the anime, it's a clean piercing with no blood and a comical, cartoony-like hole. Sorry for the low quality image of the manga but there's definitely some blood in the panel in question.

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Post by ect5150 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:14 pm

I don't have any images (or time to track them down?) but I remember the manga version of Cell stepping on 16's head to a bit more disturbing. Someone else helps track down some images for this.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:34 pm

I believe someone posted it here a couple of years back or so. I know it shows 16's eyes popping out of his head.
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Re: Manga/Anime Comparisons.

Post by Super Sonic » Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:20 am

Mewzard wrote:
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Meh, nothing Berserk hasent already done and topped.
Yeah, but we're comparing Jump manga with Toei animation. There's a lot Toei won't do.
Not just Toei. Don't know the animation company, but in Rurouni Kenshin, Usui's death is bloodless in the anime, but in the manga, is rather bloody. In an opposite take though, when Sano says he can't help Kenshin against Shishio due to his hand being messed up, it looks more messed up in the anime than it does in the manga.

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Re: Manga/Anime Comparisons.

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:20 am

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KentalSSJ6 wrote:Meh, nothing Berserk hasent already done and topped.
Yeah, but we're comparing Jump manga with Toei animation. There's a lot Toei won't do.
Not just Toei. Don't know the animation company, but in Rurouni Kenshin, Usui's death is bloodless in the anime, but in the manga, is rather bloody. In an opposite take though, when Sano says he can't help Kenshin against Shishio due to his hand being messed up, it looks more messed up in the anime than it does in the manga.
To be fair, that's one example of censorship that might have been for the best. In the manga, Usui was ripped in half, and pinned to a wall with his guts spilling out. Might be a little gruesome for a kid's show.

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Re: Manga/Anime Comparisons.

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:01 am

Meh, the Rurouni Kenshin anime is ok. Needs to be redubbed in english if you ask me. Plus we still need a Jinchu arc.

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Post by Super Sonic » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:12 am

Another difference is in the manga, Frieza kills Cargo, but in the anime Dodoria does it. A weird one is that Zarbon informs Vegeta of Frieza's transformations in the manga, but in the anime he does so offscreen apparently.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:17 am

The Biggest difference in the manga and anime:
Just curious. But what are people's opinion on the manga version of Goku turning SSJ?

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Re: Manga/Anime Comparisons.

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:26 am

TheGmGoken wrote:The Biggest difference in the manga and anime:
Just curious. But what are people's opinion on the manga version of Goku turning SSJ?
Underwhelming shock value. DBZ is a franchise that shines in animation rather than still drawings.
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Post by some_weirdGuy » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:35 am

I think this nicely sums up manga goku's super saiyan transformation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... bCy0#t=137 (2:17 if it's stupid and doesn't link to the correct time)

Say what you will about some of the filler in general, but some bits did actually improve the series, giving certain moments some proper pacing.

but yeah, pretty sure this site already outlined some of this sort of stuff? Don't know if it all made it across, but i remember for example this:
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Post by Super Sonic » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:26 am

Umm, theGMGoken, why do you have a badly looking fanscan as the example? Wouldn't a scan from vol. 11 looked better?

But yeah, super saiyan transformations of course will look better in animation than just comic pages.

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:45 am

Super Sonic wrote:Umm, theGMGoken, why do you have a badly looking fanscan as the example? Wouldn't a scan from vol. 11 looked better?

But yeah, super saiyan transformations of course will look better in animation than just comic pages.
Well, Young Jijii has the talent to make them very impressive looking in manga form. The pages where Gohan goes SSJ5 look incredible.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:10 am

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After reading this thread, I just wanted to pop in to say WHOA! HOLY SHIT! I'd never seen the manga version of this. Dude just straight up punches another guy's head right off! That's hardcore. Way cooler than using a blast.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:
After reading this thread, I just wanted to pop in to say WHOA! HOLY SHIT! I'd never seen the manga version of this. Dude just straight up punches another guy's head right off! That's hardcore. Way cooler than using a blast.
I remember the first time I read the manga and saw this page, it was one of the most shocking moments in the manga for me! Gurd is about to kill Gohan & Kuririn, I switch page, and boom! Vegata has cut Gurd's head with his freaking hand! It was the first time I saw that scene, so it was totally unexpected for me.
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Post by Cold Skin » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:08 am

One of the only things that bother me with the anime, aside from the more obvious color choices (Goku's gi and Bulma's hair): the auras.

Please, fix their shape and "inside" Toei, whenever you remake it all. They're not some sort of propelled gas you can see through, they're intense flame-like energy (more or less spiky depending on the intensity) that engulf the body and you don't see the background landscape through them, it's not something so thin you can see through, it's "wide and strong and overwhelming" energy that completely overtakes the direct surrounding of the body, hiding everything behind it with shiny light.
Or that's the way I perceive them from the manga anyway.

This might seem like a detail, but they look gorgeous and powerful in the manga (both black and white edition and the color versions, regardless of the color), but the fact that the inside/center (near the body) is transparent in the anime makes it much more like "faint gas" and much less engulfing/impressive than when it's all opaque shiny light at the center surrounded by whatever color they pick for the surrounding (though my personal opinion is that all white's better for Super Saiyans).

Even when it's bigger (Goku turning Super Saiyan 3 in Battle of Gods with the aura rising to the sky), the fact that it's 75% transparent makes it seem very thin and not a sign of huge power compared to auras in the manga.

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Post by hleV » Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:39 am

In some Kanzenban cover SS Gohan has a blue aura that you can see through. I agree that intransparent aura looks cooler, though logically the body shouldn't be visible neither.

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Post by Fizzer » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:34 pm

Well if the aura surrounds the character, then there's more of it between you and the background than between you and the character, so maybe the character should be discolored by the aura while the background is completely obscured?

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