Viz's Print Edition of the "Full Colour Comics" Discussion

[Gaffer Tape]

They probably just saw it as less work to put in that explanation instead of changing all instances of "Hercule" back into "Mr. Satan". Of course, then you have to wonder why they bothered even mentioning the name.

Well, no, what he's saying is, in his very first appearance, before they'd changed anything, they introduce him by having a character refer to him as "Hercule, formerly known as Mr. Satan" or something to that effect. And I seem to recall the character lists in Shonen Jump doing the same thing in the issue where he's first introduced. So rather than just wipe the name away completely, they call attention to the fact that they were changing his name. It was really weird. Over ten years later, I still find it very weird.

[Footlong Shoe]

I didn't know that was the case, which does make it pretty strange. I guess they decided to compromise to appeal to parents and, to a lesser extent, those who knew his real name.

[TheGreatness25]

Why not just make a footnote of it instead of trying to pass it off as him having changed his name in-universe? Call him Hercule and make a footnote that says "Hercule is known as Mr. Satan to the Japanese audience" or something? The same can be done for any name change. I don't care about the name changes because again, we all know what their names are. Plus, it gives a pretty good gauge on where a particular fan stands. If I see someone using "Tien" or "Frieza," for example, I know that fan is into the dub (with reasonable certainty). I have yet to come across a fan who uses "Djinn" or "Vegerot" though.

[Footlong Shoe]

I can't say I've seen people use "Djinn" outside of discussions about Viz, but I have seen people use "Vegerot" from time to time.

[jrdemr]

Viz has just released the cover for the fourth Freeza volume. The one for the third volume's been out for a while, but I'm also going to include it in here since no one's done so yet.




I really like how the cover for volume four turned out. Actually, I like all of them compared to the Japanese version. Apart from Mr. Popo's inexistent lips and the keeping of the same old translation, it's amazing how much Viz is getting right with this edition. Sure do hope they carry on with the Cell arc. I was expecting them to announce it back at Anime Expo, but unfortunately, Viz likes to take things very slowly...

[simtek34]

I know there are no visual edits so far besides Popo's lips(that doesn't bother me) but do they use the Viz uncut or edited version, because I've seen different versions that have swearing and the VizBigs have so much of !!!!'s and .....'s everywhere it bothers me so much. So is there any dialogue censorship?

[Nejishiki]

It's the edited translation. If I'm remembering correctly, the full color comics actually have more cases of dialogue censoring. At least, I recall certain panels losing the use of "Hell" in any capacity in one example of another user's comparisons.

[ArchedThunder]

So outside of Popo's lips there is no visual censorship? What kind of visual censorship does the VizBig edition have?
I'm thinking about picking up the Fullcolor manga, but I'm afraid that they'll take forever to get to the androids stuff, and then again with Buu and then AGAIN with Dragon Ball, so I was thinking about maybe going with the VizBig. Are the regular volumes still less censored all around, or have they gone back and added censorship (visual and dialogue)?

[divad86]

So outside of Popo's lips there is no visual censorship? What kind of visual censorship does the VizBig edition have?

The VizBig cenorship is basically changing Mr. Satan and anything with his name to Hercule like Satan City to Hercopolis (kinda like that one). Also, the middle finger is removed and guns are turned into laser guns.

I'm thinking about picking up the Fullcolor manga, but I'm afraid that they'll take forever to get to the androids stuff, and then again with Buu and then AGAIN with Dragon Ball, so I was thinking about maybe going with the VizBig.

I personally have all of the VizBigs and read them any chance I get. Aside from the edits I mentioned earlier, they don't bother me that much. I am also picking up the Full Color as Viz releases them and I would assume the same edits would still be on the Full Colors. As to when the other Full Color arcs being released I would think they will be out quicker than it took the Freeza arc to be released because of the resurgent popularity in Dragon Ball because of the new movies, Xenoverse, and Super.

[FortuneSSJ]

Just got Freeza arc volume 4 and I'm disappointed with the description on the back cover:

[spoiler]Volume 3:


Volume 4:
[/spoiler]
It's practically the same description than the previous volume, which doesn't make sense because in Volume 4 they are already fighting Freeza's second form.
It's not a deal breaker, but how did they screw up something basic like this?!

[DBZ_Lee]

Viz haven't confirmed the Cell Arc licensing yet. No doubt it's coming, but I'm expecting them to announce it at Anime Expo, and keep us waiting until 2018... *sigh*.

[FortuneSSJ]

I finally got and read the final full color volume of Freeza arc.
Now to wait 2 more years until they announce the Android arc...

[sintzu]

Now to wait 2 more years until they announce the Android arc...

And another 2 or more for the Buu arc.

If they're taking this long to release Z, how long will it be till we get the original ? 1 volume every 2-3 years ?

[floofychan333]

Will they release Cell and Buu in full colour? And what about the original series? I'd love that.

[jrdemr]

Now to wait 2 more years until they announce the Android arc...

I have hope that they will announce it this year at Anime Expo.

They did the same thing previously: With the Saiyan arc, we had the announcement in 2013, and the release in 2014. With the Freeza arc, we had the announcement in 2015 and the release in 2016. So it only follows that 2017 will be the announcement of the Android arc.

(But yeah, Viz is way too slow with their releases. France announced their edition of the Super manga after Viz, but they're still releasing it before.)

[ShadowDude112]

Now to wait 2 more years until they announce the Android arc...

I have hope that they will announce it this year at Anime Expo.

They did the same thing previously: With the Saiyan arc, we had the announcement in 2013, and the release in 2014. With the Freeza arc, we had the announcement in 2015 and the release in 2016. So it only follows that 2017 will be the announcement of the Android arc.

(But yeah, Viz is way too slow with their releases. France announced their edition of the Super manga after Viz, but they're still releasing it before.)

To be fair, Viz had absolutely no plans to release Full Color Freeza arc until so many fans on twitter asked for it. So hopefully, the Freeza arc sold well.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Will they release Cell and Buu in full colour? And what about the original series? I'd love that.

I think we'll probably get the Android Arc at some point. However, once we get into the Boo Arc, things get a little hazy. There's a visual edit or two that won't be easy for them to recreate with the colored pages, which shouldn't be a problem, but Viz refuses to release the Boo Arc uncensored as of yet.

However, if that does get released, we almost certainly won't get pre-Z material. They'll have a harder time censoring the several instances of Bulma's nipples, and that shit just won't fly outside of B&W (it rarely flies there, I think the 3-in-1 is the only release left that doesn't censor it), especially to some know-nothing mom who buys this for their kid without knowing what's inside. Because of that, we can expect that the Boyhood Arc won't be released here unless some miracle happens. The Piccolo Arc is possible though, I just don't see it happening without the Boyhood Arc preceding it.

[jrdemr]

Now to wait 2 more years until they announce the Android arc...

I have hope that they will announce it this year at Anime Expo.

They did the same thing previously: With the Saiyan arc, we had the announcement in 2013, and the release in 2014. With the Freeza arc, we had the announcement in 2015 and the release in 2016. So it only follows that 2017 will be the announcement of the Android arc.

(But yeah, Viz is way too slow with their releases. France announced their edition of the Super manga after Viz, but they're still releasing it before.)

To be fair, Viz had absolutely no plans to release Full Color Freeza arc until so many fans on twitter asked for it. So hopefully, the Freeza arc sold well.

People keep begging them to print more volumes of Reborn! and Gintama and they couldn't possibly care less. If Viz decided to launch the Freeza arc it's because the Saiyan arc sold well. Let's just hope it sold well enough for them to continue.

Will they release Cell and Buu in full colour? And what about the original series? I'd love that.

I think we'll probably get the Android Arc at some point. However, once we get into the Boo Arc, things get a little hazy. There's a visual edit or two that won't be easy for them to recreate with the colored pages, which shouldn't be a problem, but Viz refuses to release the Boo Arc uncensored as of yet.

However, if that does get released, we almost certainly won't get pre-Z material. They'll have a harder time censoring the several instances of Bulma's nipples, and that shit just won't fly outside of B&W (it rarely flies there, I think the 3-in-1 is the only release left that doesn't censor it), especially to some know-nothing mom who buys this for their kid without knowing what's inside. Because of that, we can expect that the Boyhood Arc won't be released here unless some miracle happens. The Piccolo Arc is possible though, I just don't see it happening without the Boyhood Arc preceding it.

If the 3-in-1 managed to get away with it, then the Full Colors probably will, too, regardless of whether they're in color or not. They probably will increase the rating of the Boyhood arc from an A to a T (I'm not even sure why they insist so much in keeping the rest of Dragon Ball as an A, but anyway), but I'm not putting it past them to release it, Viz is a lot more lax these days.

Regarding the instances of gun violence in the Buu arc, they will probably just put laser sounds in the glossary and leave it as-is. Color is a lot more difficult to edit and they're not so gung-ho on censoring these days.

[TheGreatness25]

Maybe they're trying to do a Funimation and sell two Dragon Ball properties side-by-side. Funimation sold the Dragon Ball Seasons side-by-side with the Z Dragon Box (I believe), now they're doing Kai Final Chapters at the same time as Super. Maybe Viz is stretching this out to sell alongside the Super manga. I don't know why, but besides the singles and Blu-ray sets, I don't recall when a DB product was sold one at a time; it feels like they release a couple of different releases on the same day.

[sintzu]

Will they release Cell and Buu in full colour? And what about the original series? I'd love that.

I think we'll probably get the Android Arc at some point. However, once we get into the Boo Arc, things get a little hazy. There's a visual edit or two that won't be easy for them to recreate with the colored pages, which shouldn't be a problem, but Viz refuses to release the Boo Arc uncensored as of yet.

However, if that does get released, we almost certainly won't get pre-Z material. They'll have a harder time censoring the several instances of Bulma's nipples, and that shit just won't fly outside of B&W (it rarely flies there, I think the 3-in-1 is the only release left that doesn't censor it), especially to some know-nothing mom who buys this for their kid without knowing what's inside. Because of that, we can expect that the Boyhood Arc won't be released here unless some miracle happens. The Piccolo Arc is possible though, I just don't see it happening without the Boyhood Arc preceding it.

I don't think that'll be enough for them to not release it. all the'd have to do is give it a higher rating or put some kind of warning on it. I think the main reaosn why they might not release it is because they'll be worried about it not selling.

Another issue is its length, it's 8 volumes so if it doesn't sell then it'll cost them a lot more than the other arcs would. I can see them releasing the 2 Piccolo arcs cause they're closer to Z's tone and are only 4 volumes so if those sell then we might get the other 8.