It was a reply to you and penguintruth both, but more specifically just about the whole 'Good Saiyans ruin everything' mindset in general, really.TheGmGoken wrote:Not sure if was a responds to me. But I was being sarcastic. But ya know. Internet kinda doesn't show that. To me honesty. Good Saiyans have make good character development for the Saiyan race.
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Well if we start to get to many then it kinda make some contradictions. Due to Vegeta, Nappa, and Raditz's statement.Gyt Kaliba wrote:It was a reply to you and penguintruth both, but more specifically just about the whole 'Good Saiyans ruin everything' mindset in general, really.TheGmGoken wrote:Not sure if was a responds to me. But I was being sarcastic. But ya know. Internet kinda doesn't show that. To me honesty. Good Saiyans have make good character development for the Saiyan race.
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I'm quite excited to see Gine and I think it can only help the Dragon Ball universe. I doubt she'll play a large role in any future stories (being featured at the very end of a gag manga after all) so why not? This is a mystery that I don't mind being solved.
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I just get the feeling they're going to try to explain Goku's personality through his mother, instead of the time-tested tradition of him having fallen into a canyon and hit his head.
Much of his personality comes from BRAIN DAMAGE. That rock he hit his head on is his mother. I want to see Goku visit the rock every Mother's Day and put flowers around it.
Much of his personality comes from BRAIN DAMAGE. That rock he hit his head on is his mother. I want to see Goku visit the rock every Mother's Day and put flowers around it.
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I'm sure they (Toriyama?) might do something like that with regards to Gine's personality influencing her son's because that's just a common theme inside and outside of entertainment media. Don't you think that it would be fitting that Goku's mother's personality shares some commonalities with her son? I can understand the trepidation and anger you feel of exposing the mystery but I think at the end of the day something like this can only help and not harm.penguintruth wrote:I just get the feeling they're going to try to explain Goku's personality through his mother, instead of the time-tested tradition of him having fallen into a canyon and hit his head.
Much of his personality comes from BRAIN DAMAGE. That rock he hit his head on is his mother. I want to see Goku visit the rock every Mother's Day and put flowers around it.
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Um. Goku was a brat and a fucking horrible child. Until he bumped his head and turned good. I don't see how Gine caused that. I don't know why or how Gine could have been the cause of Goku's persona if Goku was evil until he hurt this head.RocktheDragon wrote:I'm sure they (Toriyama?) might do something like that with regards to Gine's personality influencing her son's because that's just a common theme inside and outside of entertainment media. Don't you think that it would be fitting that Goku's mother's personality shares some commonalities with her son? I can understand the trepidation and anger you feel of exposing the mystery but I think at the end of the day something like this can only help and not harm.penguintruth wrote:I just get the feeling they're going to try to explain Goku's personality through his mother, instead of the time-tested tradition of him having fallen into a canyon and hit his head.
Much of his personality comes from BRAIN DAMAGE. That rock he hit his head on is his mother. I want to see Goku visit the rock every Mother's Day and put flowers around it.
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Vegeta's long lost brother, Bulma's long lost sister, Super Saiyan Bardock the Time Lord and now we get to see Goku's mom! They really need to just cut to the chase and dive head first into Star Wars expanded universe levels of stupidity if they are going to do this shit to Dragon Ball. As soon as we see one of the past villains return with robot spider legs I'm outta here.
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And thus we are all reminded of the real reason that what Goku's mom looks like was needed - to inspire Scarz.Scarz wrote:I am ready for this... For all the wrong reasons.
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What part of "gentle, not suited for fighting, and being romantic" is so much like Goku, anyway?
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Goku is gentle when he's not fighting....if that counts for anything.Kaboom wrote:What part of "gentle, not suited for fighting, and being romantic" is so much like Goku, anyway?
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...Well, it does sort of bring Evolution's Goku to mind...but...let's not go down that route.Kaboom wrote:What part of "gentle, not suited for fighting, and being romantic" is so much like Goku, anyway?
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No. I don't want Goku's personality to come from his parents, that's an even easier out than the brain damage.RocktheDragon wrote:I'm sure they (Toriyama?) might do something like that with regards to Gine's personality influencing her son's because that's just a common theme inside and outside of entertainment media. Don't you think that it would be fitting that Goku's mother's personality shares some commonalities with her son? I can understand the trepidation and anger you feel of exposing the mystery but I think at the end of the day something like this can only help and not harm.penguintruth wrote:I just get the feeling they're going to try to explain Goku's personality through his mother, instead of the time-tested tradition of him having fallen into a canyon and hit his head.
Much of his personality comes from BRAIN DAMAGE. That rock he hit his head on is his mother. I want to see Goku visit the rock every Mother's Day and put flowers around it.
"He gets it from his mother."
No. The whole point of NOT explaining it away as him inheriting his parents' personalities is to make him more interesting and less common like ordinary people are. Goku isn't like anybody, even his own race, except in liking to fight (but he likes it differently than Vegeta). That's what makes Goku interesting, FFS.
Am I reading a completely different manga and watching a different show than some of you? Do you not get that what makes Goku interesting is that he's quirky, not just that he's strong?
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If it wasn't for your latest part of Tenshihan&Lanch, I'd be actually afraid that we could get an out of character Gine. But now I'm sure it'll be all right. And I'm waiting eagerly for this.Scarz wrote:I am ready for this... For all the wrong reasons.
Also I like that fact that browsing Kanzenshuu today has been for me like this: "Oh, here comes someone with a crazy rumour, let's see it dismissed by the mods... Wait, it's actually true?". And it happened twice in a row - Goku's mom and Vegeta's possible major role in some potential Toriyama-made story.
If you see Goku as gentle and disliking fights, then yes, we're reading different, even contradictory, mangas.penguintruth wrote: Am I reading a completely different manga and watching a different show than some of you?
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If this is what you're extrapolating from my posts, there isn't a drink powerful enough to drown my sorrows in.Tzigi wrote: If you see Goku as gentle and disliking fights, then yes, we're reading different, even contradictory, mangas.
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This doesn't automatically mean that they're trying to say he gets it from his mom rather than the brain damage though. There's nothing yet to suggest that they're throwing the dropped-on-his-head thing out the window, I don't know why you're so quick to overreact like they are. And as far as the Goku being quirky being what makes him interesting thing, you're completely right. That's what I like about him too and is what makes him stand out - but again, there's nothing for sure saying they're trying to tamper with that yet.
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They will. They tamper with everything.
It happened with Bardock, it'll happen with Gine.
It happened with Bardock, it'll happen with Gine.
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ok.. and then we will need her in db heroes as ssj, ssj2, ssj3, ssj4 and ssj god
if episode of bardock 2 comes out maybe we can see her..
if episode of bardock 2 comes out maybe we can see her..