Does the whole Bulma/Vegeta/Yamcha thing make any sense?

[thatdbzguy]

Bulma started off hating and fearing Vegeta, yet all of a sudden she's willing to let him stay at her place? All of a sudden, she wants his D and gets his D? All of a sudden, Yamcha is a scumbag cheater?

None of this makes any sense to me. I know DBZ isn't prone to romance, but this is just ridiculous and out-of-character.

Do you think the whole thing makes sense?

[Sylveon]

Bulma and Yamcha's relationship was doomed from the start. They only got together out of convenience and they were always fighting whenever we saw them. Bulma was jealous and clingy, while Yamcha often left for years at a time. It seemed inevitable that they'd break up (for good) sooner or later. I love Bulma and Yamcha as characters, but they're both better off without each other.

But yeah, the Vegeta thing makes absolutely no sense. One of my friends thinks that Bulma inviting Vegeta (along with the entire Namekian race) to stay at her place is a sign that, despite her immaturity, self-centeredness, and temperamental behaviour, she's actually a kind-hearted person deep down and I kind of agree with that. And the "LOL Yamcha cheated" excuse is totally stupid(especially when they are so many plausible reasons for them to break up). But apparently Toriyama did something right considering all the Bulma/Vegeta shippers out there. (And, all things considered, Bulma and Vegeta are actually more suited to each considering they're both angry and narcissistic.)

[the_abberration]

In DB before Yamcha met Bulma, he was scared of girls. Their adventure together is what brought them together. Long before Vegeta came on the scene, Yamcha was portrayed as a serial cheater (at least by Bulma). At the beginning of DBZ, they had broken up remember? So you could say that after Yamcha got over his fear of women, he started sowing his wild oats.

As for Vegeta, it was an issue of right place right time. My theory is (using the anime filler) during a time in between breakups, Vegeta got injured, and Bulma nursed him back to health. They both succumbed to the "Florence Nightingale effect" and got together. Subconsciously desiring Goku may have been what kept Bulma with Vegeta. In his quest to be as powerful as Goku, Vegeta may have stayed with Bulma to see if the family dynamic (e.g. Goku, Chi Chi, Gohan) played a part. Also he could "pump" Bulma for info on any weaknesses her friends may have. At some point it developed into a real relationship.

So does it make sense? Yes it does...in a weird warped way that could only happen in the Dragon Ball universe.

[RocktheDragon]

In DB before Yamcha met Bulma, he was scared of girls. Their adventure together is what brought them together. Long before Vegeta came on the scene, Yamcha was portrayed as a serial cheater (at least by Bulma). At the beginning of DBZ, they had broken up remember? So you could say that after Yamcha got over his fear of women, he started sowing his wild oats.

As for Vegeta, it was an issue of right place right time. My theory is (using the anime filler) during a time in between breakups, Vegeta got injured, and Bulma nursed him back to health. They both succumbed to the "Florence Nightingale effect" and got together. Subconsciously desiring Goku may have been what kept Bulma with Vegeta. In his quest to be as powerful as Goku, Vegeta may have stayed with Bulma to see if the family dynamic (e.g. Goku, Chi Chi, Gohan) played a part. Also he could "pump" Bulma for info on any weaknesses her friends may have. At some point it developed into a real relationship.

So does it make sense? Yes it does...in a weird warped way that could only happen in the Dragon Ball universe.

Basically all of that, totally agree with it.

And I never once thought that Bulma getting with Vegeta was out of the realm of possibility. It was just something that was always natural to me...taking into consideration Bulma's personality. She just kind of needed a guy like Vegeta who was as outspoken and intense as her, albeit in different ways.

[i'mfuckingevil]

In DB before Yamcha met Bulma, he was scared of girls. Their adventure together is what brought them together. Long before Vegeta came on the scene, Yamcha was portrayed as a serial cheater (at least by Bulma). At the beginning of DBZ, they had broken up remember? So you could say that after Yamcha got over his fear of women, he started sowing his wild oats.

As for Vegeta, it was an issue of right place right time. My theory is (using the anime filler) during a time in between breakups, Vegeta got injured, and Bulma nursed him back to health. They both succumbed to the "Florence Nightingale effect" and got together. Subconsciously desiring Goku may have been what kept Bulma with Vegeta. In his quest to be as powerful as Goku, Vegeta may have stayed with Bulma to see if the family dynamic (e.g. Goku, Chi Chi, Gohan) played a part. Also he could "pump" Bulma for info on any weaknesses her friends may have. At some point it developed into a real relationship.

So does it make sense? Yes it does...in a weird warped way that could only happen in the Dragon Ball universe.

Did you suggest that Bulma at one point wanted Goku?

[Mystic Buu]

No,it doesn't make sense for me.But Toriyama made it like that because of Future Trunks.

[Gokuden]

The way Mirai no Bulma would go on and on about Goku, you could tell there was something there, something heavy. Her eyes would literally sparkle.
I've always wanted them to get together, oh well. It's clear she's just smitten at the 23rd Budokai, and I think she was daydreaming about Goku on Planet Namek.

Goku also realizes bulma is pretty, well into her 40's.

Yamcha deserved better, at least a kid because he's not a bad guy at all.

[MediaFanGirl93]

I can't bring myself to hate any couple, but with Bulma/Yamcha, this couple, I don't support because I felt that all Bulma and Yamcha did was argue.

[DBZAOTA482]

The way Mirai no Bulma would go on and on about Goku, you could tell there was something there, something heavy. Her eyes would literally sparkle.

Trunks: "Was Goku-san really that strong?"
Bulma: "Oh yes Trunks, he was so strong!!*orgasm*"

[Kid Buu]

Q.Speaking of Yamcha, he was dumped by Bulma, wasn’t he?
A.That was a shock. I often spoke with Hiromi Tsuru-san, who plays Bulma; both she and I thought Bulma and Yamcha would end up together. And for Vegeta, of all people! It really was a shock. So when I met with Toriyama-sensei, I complained, “Why did it have to be like this?!” Then Toriyama-sensei said, “Come on; [Yamcha]‘s a cheater.” (laughs)

Well the voice actors for Yamcha and Bulma seem to think it was uncanny

[Gokuden]

The way Mirai no Bulma would go on and on about Goku, you could tell there was something there, something heavy. Her eyes would literally sparkle.

Trunks: "Was Goku-san really that strong?"
Bulma: "Oh yes Trunks, he was so strong!!*orgasm*"

Then she would lick her finger as her mouth water, and this suddenly turned into a fanfic.

[Gaffer Tape]

I can't bring myself to hate any couple, but with Bulma/Yamcha, this couple, I don't support because I felt that all Bulma and Yamcha did was argue.

Funny how perceptions can make us think things even though they don't actually happen. Would you believe that we don't see Yamucha and Blooma argue a SINGLE TIME in the entirety of the manga series? True, we do see Blooma while they're apparently within arguments, but that is only on TWO occasions. Every moment we actually see them together in the series, they're getting along perfectly fine.

I admit that's what always bugged me about the Dragon Books is that it took that one dubious line from the manga about Yamucha being a cheater and made all these references to these torrid affairs that he supposedly had. And likewise, there's one offhanded line in filler where Blooma makes a comment that she and Yamucha fight all the time, and everyone parrots it and believes it, even though it never actually happens!

[Fionordequester]

Hmm...that said, I do remember them arguing a bit in Z, in stuff like the Buu and Cell arc. Is there truth to that, or is it just me?

[Gaffer Tape]

I remember them bickering a bit during a filler episode in the Boo arc where they're looking for the Dragon Balls. But, again, that's filler, and I don't know even know if it should count regardless because all that amounts to is Yamucha throwing a ki blast at a dinosaur who ate the Dragon Ball, and Blooma yelling at him (one line) for doing so. But even if THAT counts, it exists outside of their relationship when the argument was that their relationship is unsupportable/unsustainable because they fought all the time.

[Fionordequester]

Hmm...you know, people do change though, and not always for the better. Didn't Yamcha want to try fighting Daimoh even though he had a broken leg? If so, that's a far cry from the Yamcha that was screaming about how doomed they were when they were about to face Frieza and King Cold.

[Gaffer Tape]

Yes, but that's par for the course for the character assassination Toriyama was putting the character through at that moment. He was trying to push the Blooma/Vegeta pairing at that point, so let's suddenly have Yamucha whine about being dragged along and be the last one to follow along when he'd never shown any inclinations to that behavior before. And then, a few chapters later, oh, yeah, he's also a womanizing cheater, even though nothing ever so much as hinted at that before.

And it's not that I would mind those changes. Hell, Yamucha (and most of the characters) desperately needed character development. The fact that Yamucha had experienced death, and that changed his outlook on life would have been a really cool idea, and it did generate a certain amount of pathos, I thought. But that's not why it's there. It's so pathetically obvious that it's there only to make him look undesirable and deserving of being dumped and shunted to the side.

Also, not really sure what that has to do with whether or not they fought all the time, but maybe you were replying to the topic in general.

[Fionordequester]

Also, not really sure what that has to do with whether or not they fought all the time, but maybe you were replying to the topic in general.

Basically, yeah. I brought up the point that they might've fought a ton in the Cell and Buu arc, you brought up evidence to the contrary (you not remembering many arguments there either), so, that was all I had to say about that. So, I thought of something to say in regards to the topic in general instead.

[Rocketman]

Yamcha gets swept along in the same drift that Chichi does. Both have completely reasonable and natural reactions to events, but since they don't fit in Dragonball's twisted vision of the world, they're shoved to the side and treated a weak/annoying/whiners/etc/etc.

[DBZAOTA482]

↑Word up.

I can't bring myself to hate any couple, but with Bulma/Yamcha, this couple, I don't support because I felt that all Bulma and Yamcha did was argue.

Funny how perceptions can make us think things even though they don't actually happen. Would you believe that we don't see Yamucha and Blooma argue a SINGLE TIME in the entirety of the manga series? True, we do see Blooma while they're apparently within arguments, but that is only on TWO occasions. Every moment we actually see them together in the series, they're getting along perfectly fine.

Kuririn did comment that they do fight a lot. Puar and Oolong did complain to Goku Bulma has been treating Yamcha badly (in the anime, at least). Hell, Yamcha didn't even wanna show his ass at the reunion because of her (the anime change it to financial reasons though).

[Kid Buu]

What reunion?