Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"
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I'm pretty sure unless explicitly specified otherwise, like BoG and RF, almost all anime movies are kinda non-canon side stories.
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Kakarot9001 wrote:Big Momma wrote:It doesn't have to be published as a manga to be part of the manga storyline.
I don't think so, if something is animated then it could take into account the animated sequels as a whole.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you or I think how it is or how it should be. It is being written as a continuation of the manga. Not the anime. That is a concrete fact. What you think doesn't matter here.
For me, it's already enough what he become in the end of Boo Arc, a proud warrior who loves his family, used to like living on Earth and and acknowledged that Kakarotto was the number one. I already said that I liked how he got mad when Beerus hit Bulma, It was a pretty nice scene but that Bingo Dance seems a little pointless to me, just a gag and nothing else because I don't see how it could be a character development making he being ridiculous, but that's only my opinion.Why doesn't he need more development? What's wrong with giving a character development? And the dance wasn't exactly a developing act in itself, it was more proof to how he developed over the Buu arc. Both the Rage Boost and the Bingo dance do a good job at this. They both show how much he cares for the family, friends, and the home he has now.
But even if his growth by the Boo arc is "enough", that doesn't mean that more will hurt. And, even though it is a good example of his growth through the Boo arc, at the end of the day the dance is just what you said; a gag. It doesn't do anything to hurt the character himself. Hell, it's one of the most popular types of gags; Take a typically serious character and put them in a situation where they'd have to do something silly.
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The name is "Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection 'F'", isn't it? It makes sense to say it is an anime movie, because, well, that's what it is. If the name were "Dragon Ball: Resurrection F", it would be clearer.Big Momma wrote: At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you or I think how it is or how it should be. It is being written as a continuation of the manga. Not the anime. That is a concrete fact. What you think doesn't matter here.
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Captain Space wrote: If it was a sequel to the anime, it'd be a sequel to the anime no matter what format it was in. If it was a sequel to the manga, which it is, it could be any format and still be a sequel to the manga. The intention behind this movie is "an animated movie that's a sequel to the manga". That's just what it is.
It also doesn't take into account the Toei movies, despite being an animated movie, but no-one's saying that's a problem.
It doesn't matter for you and it's not like a "continuation" of the manga because the time set is not after EoZ, I could see this movie like a "behind the scenes" story, it seems to be canon, I don't expect to see any inconsistencies that it could made the movie difficult to fit in the main storyline or maybe yes, let's seeBig Momma wrote:At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you or I think how it is or how it should be. It is being written as a continuation of the manga. Not the anime. That is a concrete fact. What you think doesn't matter here.
It does hurt because Vegeta is not this level of silliness lol, besides he rarely smiles, that dance was such a shame for a character like him, I usually ignore it when I review BoG.But even if his growth by the Boo arc is "enough", that doesn't mean that more will hurt. And, even though it is a good example of his growth through the Boo arc, at the end of the day the dance is just what you said; a gag. It doesn't do anything to hurt the character himself. Hell, it's one of the most popular types of gags; Take a typically serious character and put them in a situation where they'd have to do something silly.
I say, maybe I could laugh if was Piccolo, because he is serious as Vegeta but as the beginning and end of Boo Arc he became really soft and that was a scene that could fit him more than Vegeta
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I bet they won't even remember Abo and Kado. Both ranking among the Ginyu Force while they were known. Maybe they do know and will punish the two for abandoning the WTO, or maybe they couldn't get into contact with Abo and Cado. Either way they should be mentioned. They were powerful allies.
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I think Abo and Kado could make a surprise return. I mean, Tarble got mention in BOG, so obviously Toriyama must have taken notice of the 2008 OVA.dbzfan7 wrote:I bet they won't even remember Abo and Kado. Both ranking among the Ginyu Force while they were known. Maybe they do know and will punish the two for abandoning the WTO, or maybe they couldn't get into contact with Abo and Cado. Either way they should be mentioned. They were powerful allies.
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The Brand name "Z" is much more popular. It's an "anime" movie because it's animated. But it's being written as part of the manga timeline. So it isn't taking anime-only things (like GT) into account. I never said it was clear, but it's true.Sandubadear wrote:The name is "Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection 'F'", isn't it? It makes sense to say it is an anime movie, because, well, that's what it is. If the name were "Dragon Ball: Resurrection F", it would be clearer.Big Momma wrote: At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you or I think how it is or how it should be. It is being written as a continuation of the manga. Not the anime. That is a concrete fact. What you think doesn't matter here.
It's not a technical "continuation" but it does take place within the manga timeline. And again, it doesn't matter how you SEE it yourself, that doesn't change what it is.Kakarot9001 wrote:It doesn't matter for you and it's not like a "continuation" of the manga because the time set is not after EoZ, I could see this movie like a "behind the scenes" story, it seems to be canon, I don't expect to see any inconsistencies that it could made the movie difficult to fit in the main storyline or maybe yes, let's seeBig Momma wrote:At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you or I think how it is or how it should be. It is being written as a continuation of the manga. Not the anime. That is a concrete fact. What you think doesn't matter here.
The story for Fukkatsu no “F” (Revival of “F”), opening nationwide in Japan 18 April 2015 in 2D and IMAX 3D, is being crafted by original manga author Akira Toriyama, who stated he is writing it, “…as though it were a continuation of the manga when it was in serialization,”
He isn't. Not typically. And what you don't seem to be getting is that's the whole point. Both in terms of the gag and as a sign of development. He didn't do it because he wanted to. He didn't do it because he enjoyed it. He did it because he was in a pinch and it's the only thing he could think of that would distract Beerus.It does hurt because Vegeta is not this level of silliness lol
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Looking forward to seeing everyone in action. Hoping Vegeta gets to have a good fight with Freeza.
I wonder if any of the DBO stuff will be used one day, or if it's gone with the new material. I suppose they could rewrite the timeline to factor in new material.
I wonder if any of the DBO stuff will be used one day, or if it's gone with the new material. I suppose they could rewrite the timeline to factor in new material.
Exactly, showing he values his family more than his pride (though normally he wouldn't want to do such things).Big Momma wrote:He isn't. Not typically. And what you don't seem to be getting is that's the whole point. Both in terms of the gag and as a sign of development. He didn't do it because he wanted to. He didn't do it because he enjoyed it. He did it because he was in a pinch and it's the only thing he could think of that would distract Beerus.
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I thought this argument ended yesterday. And the day before that. And the day before that.
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RoF 2nd chapter leaking today/tonight?
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This.Kamiccolo9 wrote:I thought this argument ended yesterday. And the day before that. And the day before that.
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It leaked on the 18th last month, so I doubt it.SSJGFrieza wrote:RoF 2nd chapter leaking today/tonight?
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True but i read that it comes out day earlier this time.Doctor. wrote:It leaked on the 18th last month, so I doubt it.
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Wednesday is the likely the earliest it'll appear. We've had the rare Tuesday EST leak, but it's rare.Doctor. wrote:It leaked on the 18th last month, so I doubt it.SSJGFrieza wrote:RoF 2nd chapter leaking today/tonight?
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No way to be sure. They might get a mention, and it'd be really awesome if they appeared. Unfortunately if they appear in front of Freeza, I can see them being killed right then and there.Lord Beerus wrote:I think Abo and Kado could make a surprise return. I mean, Tarble got mention in BOG, so obviously Toriyama must have taken notice of the 2008 OVA.dbzfan7 wrote:I bet they won't even remember Abo and Kado. Both ranking among the Ginyu Force while they were known. Maybe they do know and will punish the two for abandoning the WTO, or maybe they couldn't get into contact with Abo and Cado. Either way they should be mentioned. They were powerful allies.
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I'm really interested in this second chapter, I hope it explains why they're training with Whis.
That's a portion of the movie that we really know nothing about at all. We know Frieza gets revived at the start and there's a big battle at the end with the Z Fighters and Frieza's soldiers but we know nothing really that happens in between.
That's a portion of the movie that we really know nothing about at all. We know Frieza gets revived at the start and there's a big battle at the end with the Z Fighters and Frieza's soldiers but we know nothing really that happens in between.
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And that in between is really what I'm most interested in. This should be an interesting week.
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Oh, I'm sure nobody getting the context is the point. What I meant is that I'm wondering if it's like all the sex, porn and masturbation jokes on shows like Spongebob Squarepants: not designed for its target audience to pick up on, but rather made for the odd person or two to have a "Wait, what? Did that just happen? That didn't happen!" moment. You know, tongue in cheek.Big Momma wrote:Dayspring wrote:It's even weirder in English because they put the F in quotations. That's an old expression that's meant as a less vulgar form of saying "rebound lay."FortuneSSJ wrote:-About the title-
I would rather Revival of F or Resurrection of F.
Only Resurrection F doesn't sound good, especially when I translate to portuguese.
Resurrection "F" = a Resurrection Fuck = getting back into the dating world with a one-night stand after a relationship breakup. Is Funi being witty or something? The "of" is necessary for the title to make sense grammatically.
I've never, ever heard of that before (Not that I don't believe, just that those connotations are far, far removed from the vocabulary of today) and I doubt most people would even know that context.
I said this in the other thread, but "Resurrection 'F'" sounds fine and makes sense to me. It reminds me of the Phrase "Generation X". Plus, the double-f sound in "Resurrection of F" is a little weird to me.
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For Piccolo to be at that "level of silliness" he had to grow and change over time and it made him softer. You say that it didn't fit Vegeta's character but it would have fit Piccolo's at this point in time. But this is not the end of the buu arc, this is beyond that and after a life-changing character-changing realization from Vegeta's character. At this point he has changed enough to be that silly if it means saving the day. He didn't want to do the fusion dance either but he did it in Fusion Reborn. I know that's not manga-canon but it's an example of something he did that would be out of the norm for him even during the buu arc that fans were able to accept. The joke is that he begrudgingly did it... the ends justify the means.Kakarot9001 wrote:
It does hurt because Vegeta is not this level of silliness lol, besides he rarely smiles, that dance was such a shame for a character like him, I usually ignore it when I review BoG.
I say, maybe I could laugh if was Piccolo, because he is serious as Vegeta but as the beginning and end of Boo Arc he became really soft and that was a scene that could fit him more than Vegeta
Vegeta is NOT the same person he was in the buu arc, the android arc, the freeza arc or the saiyan arc. In fact in each arc he changes a little more.
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this guy still doesnt realize that vegeta actualy loves his family and cares for earth at this point?
he was in panic and this was the first thing that pop in his head entertain beerus.
how else should he entertain him? shooting random ki blast to the sky so it looks lile fireworks?
also only cuz the movie is animated doesnt mean it got something to do with GT or the other movies or even the dbz anime.
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he thought of the manga when he decided to make the movies.simple.
this whole argument is so simple yet you still cant or refuse to accept it.
BoG and RoF is between end of buu saga and EoZ and we have yet to wait if akira toriyama retcon EoZ.
there is realy nothing more to say.
sry for bringing this up again.
he was in panic and this was the first thing that pop in his head entertain beerus.
how else should he entertain him? shooting random ki blast to the sky so it looks lile fireworks?
also only cuz the movie is animated doesnt mean it got something to do with GT or the other movies or even the dbz anime.
author>you.
he thought of the manga when he decided to make the movies.simple.
this whole argument is so simple yet you still cant or refuse to accept it.
BoG and RoF is between end of buu saga and EoZ and we have yet to wait if akira toriyama retcon EoZ.
there is realy nothing more to say.
sry for bringing this up again.