Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[tinlunlau]

It appears that the 3D bluray will be released in Hong Kong. Is Funimation entirely skipping the 3D release?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Since there's mentions of the home release in this thread I thought this would be the best place to ask this but, does anyone know when RightStuf usually ships pre orders? Cause I want to be able to know when my pre order of Resurrection F on Blu Ray will ship.

They've already started shipping them. I know someone who's order for the CE has already shipped.

[FortuneSSJ]

Yeah, the new cool thing is to pause while trying to catch "bad" art during action sequences. Then zooming in, which is even more ridiculous, as the scene is not supposed to be seen that way. Those people have no idea what is an inbetween, or that faces look undetailed when characters are in the background or the drawing is far from the screen, in any anime.

This is an actual example of a bad shot in an anime movie:

Spoiler:

It's not an action sequence, not a freeze frame, no zoom..nothing. It is exactly how it looks here. Oh but it was done by Madhouse, so who cares...

Like any fanbase out there, Madhouse fanboys since HxH 2011 can be terrible. Pretty sure most of them didn't even know Madhouse before HxH 2011.
That movie is still better than the second one, Last Mision, in everything. But both flopped anyway.

[JulieYBM]

Kei was saying on Twitter last night that Eguchi Hisashi and Satou (Masaki?) were calling out Yamamuro.

Sato and Eguchi indirectly threw dirt at Yamamuro. Pros too think he's bad, after all.

@JulieYBM He said he had had his part entirely redrawn by Yamamuro though he was told to do as he likes, even by ignoring the storyboard.

@JulieYBM They described him as "a big fish in a small pond" which keeps sticking to one particular franchise for years without any progress

That sounds about right, given Yamamuro's lack of growth in the last twenty-five years and his general sticking to Toei franchises. Both Eguchi and Satou were mainstay key animators on the Maeda Minoru episodes of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. This isn't the first time Yamamuro has been publically criticized. When the trailer for the 2013 film was released freelance animator Kameda Yoshimichi criticized the look of the movie on Twitter.

[Chuquita]

Kei was saying on Twitter last night that Eguchi Hisashi and Satou (Masaki?) were calling out Yamamuro.

Sato and Eguchi indirectly threw dirt at Yamamuro. Pros too think he's bad, after all.

@JulieYBM He said he had had his part entirely redrawn by Yamamuro though he was told to do as he likes, even by ignoring the storyboard.

@JulieYBM They described him as "a big fish in a small pond" which keeps sticking to one particular franchise for years without any progress

That sounds about right, given Yamamuro's lack of growth in the last twenty-five years and his general sticking to Toei franchises. Both Eguchi and Satou were mainstay key animators on the Maeda Minoru episodes of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. This isn't the first time Yamamuro has been publically criticized. When the trailer for the 2013 film was released freelance animator Kameda Yoshimichi criticized the look of the movie on Twitter.

*Wonders if this means there's hope of eventual escape from Yamamuro character designs on the franchise.*

I'd really like to see something closer in character design to the manga during its run.

[ekrolo2]

Did Yamamuro work on Yo Son Goku?

[Ajay]

Did Yamamuro work on Yo Son Goku?

Yup. I believe that was the debut of the character designs that have been used for everything since. Though it should be noted that many of the character designs were re-used from the Z days, so it's probably why that special's designs aren't quite as tragic as what we have now.

[ekrolo2]

Shame the same practice isn't re-used nowadays, is there any reason Yamamuro has managed to stick around so long?

[JulieYBM]

Shame the same practice isn't re-used nowadays, is there any reason Yamamuro has managed to stick around so long?

He has seniority status and probably enforces it. That or nobody else wants to take over his role.

Did Yamamuro work on Yo Son Goku?

Yup. I believe that was the debut of the character designs that have been used for everything since. Though it should be noted that many of the character designs were re-used from the Z days, so it's probably why that special's designs aren't quite as tragic as what we have now.

The special re-used a few of the older designs by Maeda, Nakatsuru and Yamamuro for the minor characters, like the Muten Roushi and Oolong. Gokuu and the main characters had new designs, though. Tate Naoki was an assistant animation supervisor for the special, so some of his sensibilities managed to slip in without being completely rubbed out by Yamamuro.

[ShadowDude112]

My Blu-ray Combo pack of FUNi's Resurrection 'F' shipped to me today. So, that's fun.

[Chuquita]

Re: Ossu!

I really dug when Tate's style showed up; it looks so lively compared to Yamamuro's.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Shame that Yamamuro held on to the position of a character designer just because of his seniority status. I'm not really impressed by his direction for Dragon Ball Super at all. I wonder if more people throw dirt at him that Toei will have a second thought on getting rid of Yamamuro and have someone credible take over his role.

[Black_Liger]

Can someone explain me why everyone hates Yamamuro? I haven't been in touch with this subject.

[JulieYBM]

Can someone explain me why everyone hates Yamamuro? I haven't been in touch with this subject.

His character designs have gotten uglier, his role as animation supervisor suffocates his animators, he isn't a good animator and he has no directing sense.

[Bullza]

He directed Resurrection F no? Movie got good reviews especially for the animation and the movie seems to be considered better than the last movie for the most part. The criticism seems kinda silly.

[Blade]

Essentially, without pretending that we know innate, inside details of his working methods, we're largely just putting two and two together.

What we can say without any doubt is that within the fan-base, his character designs have always been divisive, and on a personal level, other animators have found him difficult to work with.

There's no doubt that his history within the Dragonball Franchise has gone a long way to open doors for him this time around. There are some things that he has handled better than others, but I'm firmly in the camp who believes that with everything else that is going against the franchise on a production level, on the evidence of end product alone that the man isn't doing a terrible job.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

I think Tadayoshi Yamamuro has done a great job. He directed Resurrection 'F' and I loved that film. He also animated one of my favourite sequences in the entire franchise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6bz-vK4-fo

I honestly don't understand all the hate, and I've seen A LOT of hate on him on this forum.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

He directed Resurrection F no? Movie got good reviews especially for the animation and the movie seems to be considered better than the last movie for the most part. The criticism seems kinda silly.

Yes he did, Kanzenshuu's own review even praises his work on the movie:

You could be forgiven for assuming Tadayoshi Yamamuro has experience with directing: Resurrection ‘F’ hits all the notes of a classic Dragon Ball Z film while having a visual flair all its own, even distinct from 2013’s Battle of Gods.

Colors are vibrant and diverse with above-average animation to round out the package. While the fight scenes — particularly the skirmishes against Freeza’s army — are fluid and impressive, we are also subjected to plenty of scenes with yapping mouths atop static background landscapes, along with the occasional (awful) CGI insertion. It’s more consistent than Battle of Gods, but with fewer high points.

[Araki]

Can someone explain me why everyone hates Yamamuro? I haven't been in touch with this subject.

He directed Resurrection F no? Movie got good reviews especially for the animation and the movie seems to be considered better than the last movie for the most part. The criticism seems kinda silly.

Yeah, "everyone" is a huge exaggeration. We also gotta have in mind that those two guys (Eguchi and Sato) aren't any big names at all, but key animators that rarely got any work in the past decade. They could be just old men with a grudge rambling on twitter, since they've worked with Yamamuro on the franchise but doesn't seem to have a lot to do now. Maybe they even asked Yamamuro for a job and it didn't work out for them. Those things happen, we don't know. Maybe they even envy his position..

Anyway, pretty much all the mainstream fans i know seem to love the art style of the movies. In Super he's just the character designer and the art style changes from episode to episode based on who's doing it, but many casual fans think Yamamuro's is the way Dragon Ball is supposed to look (no wonder episode 13 was so popular). If it doesn't look like his art, it's "off model". That, i can't agree with.

[Darkblade1995]

Resurrection F sold around 41000 copies in its first week of release. Dvd, Blu ray and special editions included.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... -11/.94140

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... -11/.94142