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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:11 pm

Marco Polo wrote:How is that reverting to an earlier hairstyle? It IS the same hairstyle.
Have you forgotten Freeza arc?
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Marco Polo » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:13 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Marco Polo wrote:How is that reverting to an earlier hairstyle? It IS the same hairstyle.
Have you forgotten Freeza arc?
I actually did because that was one of the worst hairstyle in the franchise :lol:

Anyway, my only point was that it would be dumb IMO to shove a new hairstyle like that between two previous manga chapters, not that it would be impossible.

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Post by dbgtFO » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:15 pm

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Except that he has almost the same hairstyle in Saiyan & Cell arcs.
How is that reverting to an earlier hairstyle? It IS the same hairstyle.
Because he had another hairstyle between those two arcs. Thus in the Cell arc he reverted to an earlier hairstyle.

Edit: That's funny. I didn't get notified about your two messages before posting...
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Post by Low Tone G » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:15 pm

Something bothers me on the poster. Frieza is shown to have a flame-like aura just like Goku had as a God. But in the movie was shown that the Beerus was some different aura, even though he had the same type of Ki. So I can imagine the Freeza somehow steals Goku's Godly power-up and makes his own had tries to kill Goku to have his revenge. And after that Vegeta will become a God himself too with Bra around, and with the help(mostly advices of them, because Vegeta will not allow for anybody to involve in their battle) of Goku, Whis and Beerus will defeat Freeza.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:17 pm

Low Tone G wrote:Something bothers me on the poster. Freeza is shown to have a flame-like aura just like Goku had as a God. But in the movie was shown that the Beerus was some different aura, even if he had the same type of Ki. So I can imagine the Freeza somehow steals Goku's Godly power-up and makes his own had tries to kill Goku to have his revenge. And after that Vegeta will become a God himself too with Bra around, and with the help(mostly advices of them, because Vegeta will not allow for anybody to involve in their battle) of Goku, Whis and Beerus will defeat Freeza.
Or Vegeta becomes a god first, and Freeza steals the power from him, humiliating Vegeta, and leaving Goku to clean up his mess? Because given their track record, that's more likely to happen.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:17 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:Hey maybe Piccolo or Gohan or even Krillin will PFFFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK NO...prepare to see their anuses get beaten and say how awesome Goku and possibly Vegeta are.
Don't jump the gun just yet. Toriyama has shown in the past he is more than willing throw a bone to guys like Piccolo, Gohan and Krillin if the situation seems right for it.
He didn't last time and I doubt he will this time. Everyone except Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, and Whis may as well be Yamcha. They all share the role of getting beaten up to make the villain look more powerful and menacing. Last movie that was somewhat rectified with everyone being defeated, but even still I doubt Piccolo after all these years is going to be significant. I also doubt the next generation will be significant as they are a waste of time without a purpose anymore.

I can already imagine Abridged Krillin going "OH GO NO NOT AGAIN. I AM NOT BEING KILLED BY HIM AGAIN!"
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Post by Xeogran » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:17 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:Hey maybe Piccolo or Gohan or even Krillin will PFFFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK NO...prepare to see their anuses get beaten and say how awesome Goku and possibly Vegeta are.
Don't jump the gun just yet. Toriyama has shown in the past he is more than willing throw a bone to guys like Piccolo, Gohan and Krillin if the situation seems right for it.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:20 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:Something bothers me on the poster. Freeza is shown to have a flame-like aura just like Goku had as a God. But in the movie was shown that the Beerus was some different aura, even if he had the same type of Ki. So I can imagine the Freeza somehow steals Goku's Godly power-up and makes his own had tries to kill Goku to have his revenge. And after that Vegeta will become a God himself too with Bra around, and with the help(mostly advices of them, because Vegeta will not allow for anybody to involve in their battle) of Goku, Whis and Beerus will defeat Freeza.
Or Vegeta becomes a god first, and Freeza steals the power from him, humiliating Vegeta, and leaving Goku to clean up his mess? Because given their track record, that's more likely to happen.
That seems like the most likely outcome. Then this happens:

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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:22 pm

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Lord Beerus wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:Hey maybe Piccolo or Gohan or even Krillin will PFFFFFT HAHAHAHAHAHA FUCK NO...prepare to see their anuses get beaten and say how awesome Goku and possibly Vegeta are.
Don't jump the gun just yet. Toriyama has shown in the past he is more than willing throw a bone to guys like Piccolo, Gohan and Krillin if the situation seems right for it.
Krillin's Taiyoken+Kienzan combination = R.I.P. Freeza 8)
If that actually happens in the movie, I will fly to Japan and give Toriyama a huge hug. :clap:

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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:23 pm

I go to bed with the thread at 107 pages. I wake up and it's at 125. Fuck you, guys. :P

So anyway, still reading through the previous pages, so I might be repeating some things, buuut:

- I'm surprised people are reacting so negatively to this. With the way Beerus and Whis were talking about him at the start of BOG, I think it's a logical choice. And guys, Freeza. FREEZA. The villain that probably defines the franchise. And also, remember how we reacted when we first saw the BOG poster? "Rargh, it's a fuckin' rabbit-cat man." Stay positive everyone. :wink:

- Already liking the poster a lot more than BOG's. Can already tell there'll be a bit more substance to this film.

- The people who were upset with BOG will probably get their wish (Heh, wish) for a more traditional DBZ movie this time around. Hope we retain some of the really positive elements from BOG though. I still hope the movie retains Toriyama's trademark humour, which I'm sure it will, but I get the feeling it won't be as prominent this time around.

- I like how he got the idea for the title from listening to Maximum the Hormone. Hopefully F is used as an insert song at some point in the film. :D

- I'm surprised people haven't been talking/complaining about this one: 3D. Let's all hope that this doesn't mean more bad CG...which I'm sure it does (Stay positive. Stay positive). Ah well, guess after I-MAX, 3D was the next logical step. Gotta give the kiddies that extra incentive to go somehow.


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EDIT: Couple of other things:

- Notice how Toriyama has stuck to his classic duo of a tall guy along with a short guy, in regards to the new henchmen. :P
- Also, this means we get to hear Chris Ayres' Freeza again when the movie gets dubbed.
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Post by MCDaveG » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:24 pm

This made my day, on ANN:
penguintruth wrote:Maybe Freeza becomes a rival of Trunks for Mai's affections. Or maybe Bulma puts him to work at Capsule Corp.
They should play up the comedy of the situation of Freeza, now completely out of his league with ANY of Goku's group (save for Roshi, Oolong, and Pu'er), making impotent threats and everybody just laughs at him.
The film explores Freeza's inability to come to grips with his irrelevance. He goes to a support group where he meets Broly. Yamucha is the group counselor. Gohan guest speaks on Fridays.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:25 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Or Vegeta becomes a god first, and Freeza steals the power from him, humiliating Vegeta, and leaving Goku to clean up his mess? Because given their track record, that's more likely to happen.
Nah. If Toriyama was willing to Vegeta one of the most contrived rage induced power ups ever and have him kick Beerus' ass, I'm sure he be more than willing to let Vegeta have center stage in a movie if he had full control of it.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:26 pm

Marco Polo wrote:Mmh, on the other hand, if this is really Gohan, then all the Z Fighters on this poster are the ones who last fought Freeza on Namek. Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo, Krillin. :think:
Haha I knew I wasn't the only one who made that connection.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:27 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Low Tone G wrote:Something bothers me on the poster. Freeza is shown to have a flame-like aura just like Goku had as a God. But in the movie was shown that the Beerus was some different aura, even if he had the same type of Ki. So I can imagine the Freeza somehow steals Goku's Godly power-up and makes his own had tries to kill Goku to have his revenge. And after that Vegeta will become a God himself too with Bra around, and with the help(mostly advices of them, because Vegeta will not allow for anybody to involve in their battle) of Goku, Whis and Beerus will defeat Freeza.
Or Vegeta becomes a god first, and Freeza steals the power from him, humiliating Vegeta, and leaving Goku to clean up his mess? Because given their track record, that's more likely to happen.
That seems like the most likely outcome. Then this happens:

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:28 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Or Vegeta becomes a god first, and Freeza steals the power from him, humiliating Vegeta, and leaving Goku to clean up his mess? Because given their track record, that's more likely to happen.
Nah. If Toriyama was willing to Vegeta one of the most contrived rage induced power ups ever and have him kick Beerus' ass, I'm sure he be more than willing to let Vegeta have center stage in a movie if he had full control of it.
Except...he didn't kick Beerus's ass? He powered up, and then got crushed. See:Freeza fight (twice), fight with 18, fight with Cell, again against Cell, against Fat Buu...
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:28 pm

MCDaveG wrote:This made my day, on ANN:
penguintruth wrote:Maybe Freeza becomes a rival of Trunks for Mai's affections. Or maybe Bulma puts him to work at Capsule Corp.
They should play up the comedy of the situation of Freeza, now completely out of his league with ANY of Goku's group (save for Roshi, Oolong, and Pu'er), making impotent threats and everybody just laughs at him.
The film explores Freeza's inability to come to grips with his irrelevance. He goes to a support group where he meets Broly. Yamucha is the group counselor. Gohan guest speaks on Fridays.
Okay, that is pretty funny. :lol:

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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:30 pm

I think we should have a separate thread for news updates only, and leave the discussion to this thread, so we don't have to wade through 15 pages of "OMG it's Freeza" to get to the actual news.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:32 pm

So some of you'd rather have your 'lolz Freeza' feelings validated rather than get a possibly interesting movie? :? I mean, no offense, but...hell, I'm the biggest Kuririn fan around, but if that (or any other 'lolz let's just have Freeza be a joke in this movie after all this build up info and poster') happened, I'd be disappointed, especially after this is being touted as a 'bigger' film than BOG was.

Not to say I wouldn't be behind this being a mislead though, and Freeza, despite playing a large part, actually has less to do with the main threat than we think.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:33 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Or Vegeta becomes a god first, and Freeza steals the power from him, humiliating Vegeta, and leaving Goku to clean up his mess? Because given their track record, that's more likely to happen.
Nah. If Toriyama was willing to Vegeta one of the most contrived rage induced power ups ever and have him kick Beerus' ass, I'm sure he be more than willing to let Vegeta have center stage in a movie if he had full control of it.
Except...he didn't kick Beerus's ass? He powered up, and then got crushed. See:Freeza fight (twice), fight with 18, fight with Cell, again against Cell, against Fat Buu...
Same thing happened to Goku. He got humiliated in combat by Beerus twice in that movie. Hell, since the Freeza Arc Vegeta has actually had a better in combat than Goku has.

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Post by Low Tone G » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:37 pm

Now I'm really looking forward for the trailer. It could appear in December of in January only?
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